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All through this thread I have tried my best to keep it on a even keel conversation wise (Though a few times I found myself boiling a bit).. If you guys want to fight.. I suggest you do it among yourselves. If anyone else wishes to have a reasonable discussion about the fact Make a Wish continues to deny sick kids the opportunity to hunt I would be glad to discuss it. I still will say it again MAKE A WISH IS ANTI HUNTING.. They prove this by denying sick kids the opportunity afford others who want something a bit more PC I am disappointed in them.. Apparently they have no back bone as an organisation and then they are not honest about WHY they turn down kids. I will also say this MAKE A WISH DOES GOOD THINGS FOR KIDS. Jamie |
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It's as if someone said "Idiot" and I replied "I'm tired of people talking negatively about Quebecers!" See, I'm making the connection, not the speaker. Anyways, not a big deal. Just a point of clarification. I still plan to use the word "slow" for all kinds of things.. Just too weird to to say "Man, the traffic is unfast today". ;) |
Donate to who ever you want to but why try to persuade other people not to just because you don't agree with some of the decisions Make a Wish has to make based on their supporters? At the end of the day it is about helping a sick or dying kid have something special and great in their lives. You're basically just stooping to the same level as those accused of being bully's in the article that was posted. You're entitled to donate to who you please but why make a big deal about what other people chose to do? These organizations rely heavily on charitable donations and they gotta do what they gotta do to keep them afloat so they can keep doing what they do. So a kid can't go hunting, there are many other out door activities they can still enjoy but at the end of the day all that matters is the kids they help.
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To call make a wish anti hunting is wrong-no where has anyone shown any proof of this.
To slight all the good that make a wish has done and all the good they will do in the future is wrong. They made what I am sure was a very tough buisness decison. Would it be fair to ask them to sacrifice all the kids they will help in the future to help this one boy? NO If they can't provide this service to children there are others who can and will. Does this make Make a wish wrong? NO!! They are looking out for the greater good and who are we to fault them for that??? |
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Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah...http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/p..._fish/corn.gif |
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poking the bear, poking the bear, poking the bear. ;) |
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I was unsure what you were getting at with that Your next comment... that's why i asked right... I didn't want to assume the wrong thing but i get your point on that.........We are all entitled to our opinions, maybe this is a wake up call for us all. But i think we are beginning to agree that this topic is going no where... It is sad that when someone tries to do something for the better or good, that others try to ruin it. Support your cause and I'll support mine, if you can arrange an event that supports your cause where A guy could join and make a donation or show support then I am in. But this BS on the forum has got to stop! |
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You got a good point...... My bad... just jumped on that like Oprah on a baked ham.....lol |
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I for one have no comment on this subject......but I am going to join the horads from the borads and help in the coplassing of the perch lakes.
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209x50, no, but that does not make them antihunting. I know lots of people who do not hunt, does not make them anti hunting. And then to try to make a character assination on someone who selfishlessly tries to help out sick kids by suggesting he can make a better informed opinion of which charity to support next year is wrong anyway you slice or dice it.
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UM wow.... when MEC allowed the anti bear hunters to set up shop outside to protest the bear hunters we hunters talked about boycotting MEC for being anti hunters, when Goodyear supported a group that was anti hunting during one of their tire promos we talked and wrote letters to Goodyear. When a corporation makes a decision that affects what we love to do it effects us as a group. Now it goes without sayn any charity work is good but we have to know the facts of where money goes and how its spent. Would you give to a charity that 50% of donations go to admin costs or would you rather it go to one that 1% goes to admin costs? Jamie stated the fact that Make a Wish has made a conscious business decision to not support a childs wish to hunt...to me that is an anti hunting stance. Fine all he is sayn is that he chooses not to support a group that doesn't support pursuits he loves. I wasn't aware of this and I think its good information. H e points this out that maybe not everyone was aware of that fact , it isn't in any way libelous because it's true. Make a wish does great worka nd should be commended for it but we should remember that they as a group have made that decision just as James has made the decision not to support that charity with his money. If Make a wish has that right why are so many of you ganging up on him for exercising the same right.....all he did was inform ( yes he made some disparaging remarks ) us of the issue....don't kill the messenger. :wave:
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Anvil, good on you for donating your time and energy to a worthy cause, hats off to you bro!!!! |
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From what I've been reading they refer interested people to other charities which can fulfill their wishes to hunt. Sounds to me like they are a non hunting organization not an anti hunting organization.
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[QUOTE=JohninAB;269835]Jamie, you posted this for no other reason than to start a fight and belittle what Rumtan is doing. There is a story behind why they do this Make a Wish derby and I have been told it and I respect Rumtan for what he is doing.
Bull crap get off your high horse John. EVERYONE is entitled to an opinion, especially on an open forum. After reading this whole thread, I find that at no time has Jamie belittled what RUmtan has done or is trying to do, he has simply tried to enlighten others to something that he believes in. |
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Thanks for posting this Jamie and I see what you're saying 100% and definatly a tough decision of doing something good and not wanting to support an anti-hunting charity. It puts a lot of guys in tough spots obviously as this thread is showing.... |
Oh yeah, no one got back to me from Make a Wish today in regards to the email I sent. Kind of want to hear what they have to say.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showp...7&postcount=23 |
This is embarassing
Make a Wish Canada, Creating hope and happiness for children with Life-threatening illnesses across Canada. I don't care if they take kids hunting They help kids and deserve our support, not BS criticism |
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Look what i ahve missed in the 4 hours i have left adn come back we have a all out going war here man i feel sorry for RUMTAN who has to see all this horse S**T going on.
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rumtan chose a charity close to his heart and put in a ton of work to organize a derby to help sick kids. i was there i seen the work they did. so what if make a wish don't do hunts if they outsource them or not. who is ANYONE on here to question his chioce.
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hell everyone else said something .... thought i should say something too. I think if Jamie had posted 2 separate posts all would be fine. In the first post he could have said good job with the effort you make for MWF you did a fine job. Then on the second post he could have said I was just wondering if anyone else is aware of the "anti" hunting stance they have taken and maybe we as OUTDOORSMEN should support a charity that supports all aspects of outdoorsy sort of activities? This might have maybe made it more of a discussion instead of a bashing session on everyones part??? Just a thought....
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