Originally Posted by AndrewM (Post 3887748)

Maybe rather than posting hypothetical information and ideas you should spend some time reading. For dangerous game a .375 caliber is the minimum prescribed by law in most African countries. Also many countries have a minimum energy amount such as Zimbabwe with 5300J for dangerous game.
As I stated before. Also read about why FMJ bullets were required for war yet you cannot use them for hunting. I would bet they will penetrate much further than any hunting round you can find but I can also guarantee that you will see that they don't do much damage and are intended to wound the target rather than kill.

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3887774)

See there you go again, just gotta pick it, lol.

Like I said, you’re doing a fine job of making yourself look not too smart.

Maybe quote me on something else I didn’t say, it seems to make your strongest arguements :sHa_sarcasticlol:

Originally Posted by Salavee (Post 3887783)

Sorry. Thought i noticed you state that when you were describing the outstanding features of the 6.5 CM Said it looked good too. remember ?

Originally Posted by Salavee (Post 3887791)

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It as a post from earlier today or some time yesterday regarding why you bought one. You find it . I dont know how.

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3887798)

Well if you don’t know, maybe don’t use it to quote me with! Telling half truths is no better than telling lies.

Originally Posted by Salavee (Post 3887804)

I don,t hafta dig it up to remember what was said. Before you call me a liar.. you dig it up.

I dont lie. Try and remember that

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3887819)

You already forgot you said you don’t remember just two posts ago??? Not surprising!

Im not sure if you’re playing dumb or just looking for a fight, either way you’re just an instigator. Funny thing is, my 6 year old pulls the same tactics. I hope he grows out of it, it would be embarrassing to raise an adult who acts that way.

Originally Posted by Norwest Alta (Post 3887846)

I do remember the 30 deg shoulder comment and it being a advantage in your opinion. Or that’s the way I read it.

Originally Posted by Norwest Alta (Post 3887846)

I do remember the 30 deg shoulder comment and it being a advantage in your opinion. Or that’s the way I read it.

Originally Posted by Big Sky (Post 3887863)

Could use a little help again.
Trying to compare apples to apples using quality hunting bullets. I don't see the sense in comparing the best of one to the worst of another.
Lotta guys use Nosler Accubond LR. Might give 'em a try.

Winchester factory ammo is available for both the Creedmoor and the 270win in the Expedition product line.
Price per box is the same, so that is good.
https://www.cabelas.ca/product/96360

6.5 Creedmoor
2700fps at the muzzle
sd =0.291
bc = 0.625 got this from the Nosler website. The Cabela ad only had the MV.

270 Winchester
2900fps muzzle velocity.
sd =0.279
bc = 0.591 also from Nosler website

Can anybody run these? Creedmoor has the higher bc. When does it overtake the 270?
Much appreciated.

Also, I searched for 6.5PRC ammo. Nothing in TTSX, Nosler Partitions or Accubond LR, so nothing to compare.

Originally Posted by Big Sky (Post 3887863)

Could use a little help again.
Trying to compare apples to apples using quality hunting bullets. I don't see the sense in comparing the best of one to the worst of another.
Lotta guys use Nosler Accubond LR. Might give 'em a try.

Winchester factory ammo is available for both the Creedmoor and the 270win in the Expedition product line.
Price per box is the same, so that is good.
https://www.cabelas.ca/product/96360

6.5 Creedmoor
2700fps at the muzzle
sd =0.291
bc = 0.625 got this from the Nosler website. The Cabela ad only had the MV.

270 Winchester
2900fps muzzle velocity.
sd =0.279
bc = 0.591 also from Nosler website

Can anybody run these? Creedmoor has the higher bc. When does it overtake the 270?
Much appreciated.

Also, I searched for 6.5PRC ammo. Nothing in TTSX, Nosler Partitions or Accubond LR, so nothing to compare.

Originally Posted by dogslayer403 (Post 3887871)

The 270 out runs the creed out to a thousand with energy, velocity and drop with those numbers didnt calculate any further

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3887872)

What happens when you add 300fps to the Creedmoor? That’s basically where the 6.5 PRC runs.

Originally Posted by Norwest Alta (Post 3887846)

I do remember the 30 deg shoulder comment and it being a advantage in your opinion. Or that’s the way I read it.

Originally Posted by dogslayer403 (Post 3887874)

It would beat it at equal velocity so that would be some good numbers ill check. So looks like the drop is near identical but has 100fps and a 100 ft/lb edge on the 270 just quick numbers in my calculator

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3887880)

I think the 6.5prc is going to be a hot seller in the near future. It’s like a Creedmoor on nitrous. Probably less recoil than a 308 I’d imagine.

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3887872)

What happens when you add 300fps to the Creedmoor? That’s basically where the 6.5 PRC runs.

Originally Posted by dogslayer403 (Post 3887881)

Looks like a winner for sure ive had a few 6.5x284’s still have one love that cartridge the prc has an edge on it too might have to look at ordering a reamer lol

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3887884)

Here’s a great read on the two.

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/edito...6.5-prc/307816



I just happened to scroll to the bottom of that page and notice another excellent read on the 280rem vs 280ai :)

Originally Posted by 41thunder (Post 3887882)

6.5x284/ 6.5 prc is a very nice round. I’d argue upsizing to that over downsizing to the Grendel. Short action vs long action is goofy to me. The weight you save is like carrying an extra chocolate bar in your pack. With a short action you may end up being restricted if you have to chase the lands after a summer of practicing. 6.5’s are great we all know this. But they aren’t reinventing the wheel

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 3887868)

Knock yourself out.

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3887880)

I think the 6.5prc is going to be a hot seller in the near future.

Originally Posted by Big Sky (Post 3887913)

Laughing



Ammo is pretty expensive and the load offerings are pretty meager. If it's going to achieve any type of popularity, that's gotta change.

Will it thrive or will it die?

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 3887861)

It is an advantage.

Originally Posted by Salavee (Post 3887950)

for sure in the cm, but it isn't for many others. I wouldn't be buying a cartridge because of the shoulder angle

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 3887957)

I wouldn’t buy a lot of cartridges for a lot of reasons but that doesn’t make it less advantageous.

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3887538)

You only hear or see what you want to see. All I’ve done is post facts on ballistics, take from it what you want, but you’re obviously misleading yourself if you think I ever said the 6.5 is godpel, or even my favorite because I’ve made it quite clear, and stated numerous times that I prefer a .284 bullet. You, salavee, marky, nyksta, and xbolt make it your mission to try and discredit the Creedmoor no matter what is said, constantly taking things out of context to try and manipulate the conversation. I’ve never made claim or posted anything that wasn’t fact, if so show me where and prove it’s not fact. I’ve listen to your “ya buts” over and over, I’ve tried to explain that there is a time and a place for every cartridge, explained that the amount of force needed to kill a big game animal is easily exceeded by the Creedmoor if you stay within the limits. You’re the one taking offense to the notion that a 6.5 Creedmoor is a capable big game cartridge, calling it a needmore, remember that nonsense? Lol!!!

My view has never wavered or altered on the subject, yours has. I stated facts, whether you like them or agree with them is of no consequence. You were proved wrong when Stinky killed a moose with a Grendel. Oh, he took 2 shots to the body and one to the head to put it down? Your partner marky took two shots to put down his moose with a magnum, my buddy took 3 shots with a 300 mag to put down his elk, it all backs up my arguement from day one, if it has enough power to allow the bullet to preform as designed, and you put it where it’s supposed to go, you’ll be successful. That’s all I’ve ever said, but it’s enough to ruffle the feathers of a choice few, you included.

Go back to day one, I explained how a 6.5 Creedmoor is capable of retaining enough speed and energy to allow a bullet to work as designed further out than a 308 and posted the published numbers to prove it and the hurt feelings all started there.

It doesn’t matter if you beleive the bs I’m pushing, it’s fact. If you can prove the facts wrong I’d love to hear about it.

Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm (Post 3887986)

Hey now,,i clearly said i have no problem with CM, its you