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eggy 12-24-2014 09:07 AM

28" walleye
 
caught my new PB walleye 28"

http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/.../walleye14.jpg

PlatinumBarMan 12-26-2014 09:57 PM

Northern Pike - 32"
 
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...pse8136e4c.jpg

rafhone 12-28-2014 10:03 AM

31" Pike
 
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psa1d43563.jpg

The Reel Deal 12-29-2014 10:31 AM

43.25" Pike
 
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ps1af43a50.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ps15528c93.jpg

RavYak 12-29-2014 11:48 AM

Ooh, looks like Wayne has some competition now! I can only clearly confirm 43" but should be hard to beat.

Nice to see so many great fish entered on here early in the season, keep em coming!

fishinggeek 12-29-2014 01:34 PM

17" brookie

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ps083c1862.jpg

WayneChristie 12-29-2014 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavYak (Post 2675794)
Ooh, looks like Wayne has some competition now! I can only clearly confirm 43" but should be hard to beat.

Nice to see so many great fish entered on here early in the season, keep em coming!

I can see 43 1/4 even on my phone. Some of these entries are way harder to tell and some are on the ice. No offence but you have to treat every entry fairly and by the posted rules
It does look like some people are getting the benefit of doubt and others not so much. Equal across the board is necessary for fairness

RavYak 12-29-2014 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WayneChristie (Post 2676068)
I can see 43 1/4 even on my phone. Some of these entries are way harder to tell and some are on the ice. No offence but you have to treat every entry fairly and by the posted rules
It does look like some people are getting the benefit of doubt and others not so much. Equal across the board is necessary for fairness

Wayne, I only go off original photos or in cases like this situation I look at the original photo myself in photoshop in order to determine what I believe is a fair measurement. In this situation I got the following image which I can only clearly read as being 43 in... If there are other measurements you have an issue with please message me and I will look into them.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...tyl/RDPike.png

RavYak 12-29-2014 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishinggeek (Post 2675931)

FG I have to knock that down to 16.75. Also I want to give a friendly reminder to all to please post photos of live fish (or fish that can be though to be alive). This is a rule from past derbies that I am sort of on the fence of but I do think it is important to keep photos fairly clean so I will be enforcing it if things get out of hand. If there are only the odd accidental photos like this one I will let them slide though(just don't make a habit of it).

Thanks guys and keep em coming.

The Reel Deal 12-30-2014 07:04 AM

Ravyak,
Are you going to enforce rules or make them up as you go? No offence Fishing Geek, but that fish is laying across your kitchen counter.
People making their own tokens, sticking their faces in photos (who's face is that?)
This derby is a free for all, Ravyak get a grip and take control. Make solid rules and enforce them.

Ps

You are the "self proclaimed" Ultimate Angler. Your 39" pike was poorly measured and tape wasn't clear in the photo. Who could tell where it started and ended. My books and many other members opinions that entry shouldn't have counted.

PlatinumBarMan 12-30-2014 09:32 PM

Walleye - 26" (5 lb 2 oz)
 
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...psa805767f.jpg

RavYak 12-30-2014 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reel Deal (Post 2676925)
Ravyak,
Are you going to enforce rules or make them up as you go? No offence Fishing Geek, but that fish is laying across your kitchen counter.
People making their own tokens, sticking their faces in photos (who's face is that?)
This derby is a free for all, Ravyak get a grip and take control. Make solid rules and enforce them.

Ps

You are the "self proclaimed" Ultimate Angler. Your 39" pike was poorly measured and tape wasn't clear in the photo. Who could tell where it started and ended. My books and many other members opinions that entry shouldn't have counted.

Guys, please pm me if you have issues regarding submissions or think I am being unfair etc... This thread is not the correct place for these comments especially since a lot of the time there are details not publicly posted that you may be unaware of... In this case FG provided me with another photo as seen below... Between the two photos all requirements are met and I feel I was more then fair in letting him off with both private and public warnings...

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...IMG_2111-1.jpg

On another note, if measurements are going to be an ongoing issue the only actual solution is to make measurement boards a requirement... As I have stated multiple times a measure board can be bought for as cheap as $6 at the fishinhole or you can easily make one(just need something can butt fish and tape up against)... I do not want to make measurement boards a requirement at this time but if you choose not to use one know that there may be minor disagreements in submitted lengths if I am forced to interpret your photos...

RavYak 12-31-2014 12:10 AM

Standings Update, PlatinumBarMan has been killing it lately.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b.../Update-10.png

The Reel Deal 12-31-2014 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavYak (Post 2678349)

On another note, if measurements are going to be an ongoing issue the only actual solution is to make measurement boards a requirement... As I have stated multiple times a measure board can be bought for as cheap as $6 at the fishinhole or you can easily make one(just need something can butt fish and tape up against)... I do not want to make measurement boards a requirement at this time but if you choose not to use one know that there may be minor disagreements in submitted lengths if I am forced to interpret your photos...

Making more rules on the spot...

anything worth doing, should be done right.

I'm pulling out of the derby.

Great entries people, be safe, have fun, tight lines!

PlatinumBarMan 12-31-2014 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reel Deal (Post 2678506)
Making more rules on the spot...

anything worth doing, should be done right.

I'm pulling out of the derby.

Great entries people, be safe, have fun, tight lines!

Like you said it's just for fun. Rav is doing his best give him a break, and like he said he's doing checks in private in the background. No one cares to see your petty complaints in this thread. Stop being a baby and start catching and posting more fish. Don't be a quitter

AppleJax 12-31-2014 09:03 AM

Thanks for the update Tyler. That photoshop method is pretty neat.

Just reminder to everyone that this is strictly a fun derby first and foremost, so if you can't play nice here then this is not for you....

If you have any problems you can do so on PM.

Bassett 12-31-2014 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumBarMan (Post 2678625)
Like you said it's just for fun. Rav is doing his best give him a break, and like he said he's doing checks in private in the background. No one cares to see your petty complaints in this thread. Stop being a baby and start catching and posting more fish. Don't be a quitter


X2 he's only human. He's trying to make sure everyone gets to participate and have fun. If you want to whine about everything he's doing for us, because remeber he doesn't have to do it, I'm glad you quit.

RavYak 12-31-2014 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reel Deal (Post 2678506)
Making more rules on the spot...

anything worth doing, should be done right.

I'm pulling out of the derby.

Great entries people, be safe, have fun, tight lines!

Tokens have always been lenient(it is in the rules) and I didn't change anything regarding measurements(I will if it becomes necessary though...). The only rule that you can even slightly argue that I have modified is the dead fish rule and that is because it is a rule that I feel needs to be lenient to a point. This is an old rule that has never been enforced (look back at last hardwater derby if you don't believe me...) and it is something that I now realize must be updated on future derbies.

To clarify my stance on this rule what I ask of all members is to please take the time to take pictures of the fish while the fish is alive and healthy. I realize this is a little more difficult since they flop around but it can be done easily enough.

If you forget to take picture while it is alive or just are not willing to do so then please follow the below guidelines.

If a submission shows a fish that shows obvious signs of physical harm(gutted, beaten, frozen etc) such that it can not be released or if the photo is taken at home then the submission will not be accepted unless a photo of the same fish in healthy condition is supplied. In this case please submit the photo showing fish in healthy condition and then send me the other photo privately so that I can clarify whatever needs to be checked(length, token etc).

In cases where a submission shows a fish that can be considered to be healthy(nothing obvious as outlined above) but is n the ice with other dead fish please try and crop the photo to remove the other fish(send to me if you are unsure how to do this).

So far I have been more then happy with photo quality(an improvement from last years...) but as noted we can still make things better.


The Reel Deal,

I hope you understand where I am coming from on these topics and I hope that you will continue to be involved in the derby. You have caught some beautiful fish in this derby and past ones and I would hate to lose your participation over such a minor disagreement...

CanadianBadass 12-31-2014 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavYak (Post 2679234)
Tokens have always been lenient(it is in the rules) and I didn't change anything regarding measurements(I will if it becomes necessary though...). The only rule that you can even slightly argue that I have modified is the dead fish rule and that is because it is a rule that I feel needs to be lenient to a point. This is an old rule that has never been enforced (look back at last hardwater derby if you don't believe me...) and it is something that I now realize must be updated on future derbies.

To clarify my stance on this rule what I ask of all members is to please take the time to take pictures of the fish while the fish is alive and healthy. I realize this is a little more difficult since they flop around but it can be done easily enough.

If you forget to take picture while it is alive or just are not willing to do so then please follow the below guidelines.

If a submission shows a fish that shows obvious signs of physical harm(gutted, beaten, frozen etc) such that it can not be released or if the photo is taken at home then the submission will not be accepted unless a photo of the same fish in healthy condition is supplied. In this case please submit the photo showing fish in healthy condition and then send me the other photo privately so that I can clarify whatever needs to be checked(length, token etc).

In cases where a submission shows a fish that can be considered to be healthy(nothing obvious as outlined above) but is n the ice with other dead fish please try and crop the photo to remove the other fish(send to me if you are unsure how to do this).

So far I have been more then happy with photo quality(an improvement from last years...) but as noted we can still make things better.


The Reel Deal,

I hope you understand where I am coming from on these topics and I hope that you will continue to be involved in the derby. You have caught some beautiful fish in this derby and past ones and I would hate to lose your participation over such a minor disagreement...

X2 , I would hate to lose your participation as well TRD , I truly think your one of the guys to beat in this, again its just for fun, and I find its awesome for motivation to get up and fish, Kick TRD ass in PIKE ! Whoooooo :kick: lol Tight Lines !

fishinggeek 01-01-2015 05:14 PM

37.5" pike give or take

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ps808c2417.jpg

Borntohuntforcedtowork 01-02-2015 08:19 AM

My first entry hopefully did this right!!!
 
1 Attachment(s)
[attach]Attachment 101287[/attach]

CanadianBadass 01-02-2015 12:52 PM

27" tiny pike
 
Just a small little pike to get my pike on the boards, obviously im gonna upgrade this beauty ! lol

http://i57.tinypic.com/33k6mna.jpg

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Dale S 01-02-2015 02:14 PM

Perch
 
12 and 1/2 inches
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...o029/008-3.jpg

rafhone 01-03-2015 06:07 AM

28ish" eye Harry Dude is my witness
 
I understand that my ticket isn't visible. I included a pic of my self and have a witness. I was a little excited and was just trying to take a couple quick pics and send her on her way
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...pstxlffjsi.jpg
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psmadv3ia6.jpghttp://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psq6rnkwjc.jpg

rafhone 01-03-2015 06:15 AM

42ish" pike
 
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psg2m9ykvv.jpg
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psz1te0wvw.jpg
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psb6irlhxe.jpg

Kim473 01-03-2015 06:35 AM

Didn,t have the token but here is my 14" perch.

http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps95aa0558.jpg

super mario 01-03-2015 08:08 AM

3 Attachment(s)
eye 25 inch perch 13 white 21

icefever 01-03-2015 10:18 AM

cutty
 
As there are no cutty's yet here's one from yesterday, hope you can read the tape as I didn't have a yellow one. The top fin shows 18.25"
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/...psedfcd404.jpg

WayneChristie 01-03-2015 06:10 PM

walter
 
28.5 " walleye. Pic when Im done fishing

WayneChristie 01-03-2015 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WayneChristie (Post 2683261)
28.5 " walleye. Pic when Im done fishing

bah pic doesnt show it any over 28 since I couldnt pinch it so I wont bother


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