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Dean2 10-20-2020 01:30 PM

Warning - Buying and Selling to Quebec Residents
 
Between AO and CGN I have done well over 100 deals. Every single one of them went smooth as heck except for 3. Every one of the 3 problems lived in Quebec. Lucky enough I have not lost any money on them but the aggravation factor is huge.

The latest one was last week, I shipped a guy a Dillon Powder die. Total value 15 bucks. I have had 6 pms, and 8 emails from him because he can't wrap his head around the fact that those dies fit the 450, 550 and 650 presses. He is obsessed with the fact the package says 450 on it. I tried 4 times to get him to phone me, no dice. I offered him a full refund when the piece lands back in my mail and he is still bitching up a storm. Guaranteed any more Quebec buyers will be told to pound sand.

Arctic 10-20-2020 01:59 PM

Sadly, Dean, I'm in the same boat, having problems with all deals involving Quebecers, rangers from "mint bores" with pitting, to "Bubba'd" repairs not mentioned. Nowadays, I just prefer to take my business elsewhere!

Grizzly Adams 10-20-2020 02:05 PM

Hey, they voted Liberal, enough said. :lol:

Grizz

Dean2 10-20-2020 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams (Post 4251754)
Hey, they voted Liberal, enough said. :lol:

Grizz




Actually, they pretty much voted Bloc Quebecoir, so even worse.


Arctic


I know what you mean, I bought a Savage 24, 22/410 out of Quebec a few years ago, seller forgot to mention the massive chunk missing out of the stock right near the action, on his excellent condition gun. Did not show in the pictures, was obviously a different gun he took the pictures of. Lucky enough I got a stock out of Boyd's cheap and with a little judicious fitting got it to slide right on. Need to be pretty good with wood tools to do that though. Sold the gun a couple years later and got enough for it to cover the cost of fixing the stock so I basically got lucky and the demand for the 24 had really ramped up.

Jerry D 10-20-2020 02:21 PM

Its probably a language issue.

They think they understand but in reality thry dont.

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elkhunter11 10-20-2020 02:24 PM

I don't buy or sell to Quebec residents, I even avoid X-reload now.

sns2 10-20-2020 02:31 PM

I'm same as you, Dean. Way north of 100 deals. Quebec was the only problem. I refuse to ever do a private deal with someone from Quebec.

gunluvr 10-20-2020 02:44 PM

Quebec's a whole different world. Too bad we couldn't saw it off and push it out into the Atlantic.

lmtada 10-20-2020 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunluvr (Post 4251782)
Quebec's a whole different world. Too bad we couldn't saw it off and push it out into the Atlantic.

Fracking technology is becoming better/better. It might happen, no wall required. Send it off by Newfoundland.

58thecat 10-20-2020 02:56 PM

I just don't deal on CGN period.....

Dean2 10-20-2020 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 4251794)
I just don't deal on CGN period.....


I have sold a ton of stuff on CGN that would not/did not sell here on AO. I also found stuff there that you never see listed here like double rifles, drillings etc.

Scott N 10-20-2020 03:23 PM

Personally I would avoid buying anything from Quebec or China, for my own politically motivated reasons.

Dewey Cox 10-20-2020 03:28 PM

You're going to discriminate against someone, solely because they live in quebec?

Ok, good.
Then its not just me.

huntinstuff 10-20-2020 04:37 PM

I had ONE deal with a guy in Quebec

Asked for a money order. He sends a personal cheque. I wait for it to clear, he pees and moans. I asked him who, in this century, accepts or writes a personal cheque???

When there are so many criminal organizations operating in Quebec (HA, SNC lavalin, mafia, PQ, liberals, etc) why in hell would you deal with someone from that particular foreign country?????

The Cook 10-20-2020 05:08 PM

Build the wall.

Jays toyz 10-20-2020 05:13 PM

If I could lock out Quebec from my Amazon store I absolutely would. Every damned time there is something wrong. I am Saskatchewan French and we hate the Quebec french so it's totally not racist...

catnthehat 10-20-2020 05:17 PM

I normally avoid Quebec like the plague , if nothing else than their registry BS
However I did have a deal go bad a few years back .
However I recently bought a rifle out of Bai Comeau because the trader ratings the guy had were very good with a number of CGN members i have dealt with in the past .
Still very leery of that place however !:thinking-006:
Cat

Drewski Canuck 10-20-2020 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry D (Post 4251765)
Its probably a language issue.

They think they understand but in reality thry dont.

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Oh it has NOTHING to do with language and everything to do with their attitude to others.

If only the fathers of Confederation knew who they were dealing with 200 years ago.

Drewski

Outbound 10-20-2020 05:27 PM

I don't deal with Quebec residents or Quebec companies. They're the same as China in my books.

Jerry D 10-20-2020 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck (Post 4251873)
Oh it has NOTHING to do with language and everything to do with their attitude to others.



If only the fathers of Confederation knew who they were dealing with 200 years ago.



Drewski

Maybe some truth to this and there can be some some truths to groups of other populations but its not fair to paint everyone in any region as a bad apple with the same brush.

I go by trader rating and easier to sell than it is to buy. E transfer and ship. As a buyer, you have to trust the seller.

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Dewey Cox 10-20-2020 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry D (Post 4251878)
Maybe some truth to this and there can be some some truths to groups of other populations but its not fair to paint everyone in any region as a bad apple with the same brush.

I go by trader rating and easier to sell than it is to buy. E transfer and ship. As a buyer, you have to trust the seller.

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Says the guy from Ontario...

;)

Jeremy403 10-20-2020 06:11 PM

2 off the best gun deals I ever made were guns I bought from fellows in Quebec. The one had no trader rating so I told him to send it COD. Rifle showed up in a locked case no COD. Key came by letter mail a day later. I sent him a money order and gave him heck.

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Dean2 10-20-2020 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy403 (Post 4251904)
2 off the best gun deals I ever made were guns I bought from fellows in Quebec. The one had no trader rating so I told him to send it COD. Rifle showed up in a locked case no COD. Key came by letter mail a day later. I sent him a money order and gave him heck.

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They aren't all *****s, I worked in Quebec for quite a while and met many great people. They do however have a different version of truth in advertising and there are a disproportionate number of scammers. One guy I had a problem with had 300 positive trade ratings. He got banned 6 months after I had problems.s with him and it turns out there were a whole bunch of other guys like me, so u can't even take trader ratings as unvarnished truth, This guy obviously had issues or financial problems and turned bad for some reason. Finally worked it out with the idiot that bought the powder die but long and short,, last deal I do with someone from Quebec.

liar 10-20-2020 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey Cox (Post 4251811)
You're going to discriminate against someone, solely because they live in quebec?

Ok, good.
Then its not just me.

:sHa_sarcasticlol:

abenaki-warrior 10-20-2020 10:03 PM

After reading all this, Quebec seems to be worse than afghanistan. I dare any of you guys to check for references any of the ao members that i have dealt with just for fun on how the transactions were and if they would deal with me again. I have left the chevreuil.net hunting forum here because being native wasn’t easy on that forum. Maybe one of your members here by the name of pierre tessier might remember me. Now I’m wondering about my membership as an ao’er. Nothing funny here either. I always read and shut up. But now what the ****, maybe some of you didin't have good experiences with people from Quebec, thats just like you may have a scammer from your province as well. Scammers are all over not only in Quebec. I am understanding why the las 6 or seven transactions i have had here that i never got rated. When i transact now i wait for the rating first and the i will rate.
And now, maybe some will just tell me too f*** off and if so well i just might. Join date 12-30-2008 when will the last day be?
Abenaki-Warrior

huntinstuff 10-20-2020 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abenaki-warrior (Post 4252064)
After reading all this, Quebec seems to be worse than afghanistan. I dare any of you guys to check for references any of the ao members that i have dealt with just for fun on how the transactions were and if they would deal with me again. I have left the chevreuil.net hunting forum here because being native wasn’t easy on that forum. Maybe one of your members here by the name of pierre tessier might remember me. Now I’m wondering about my membership as an ao’er. Nothing funny here either. I always read and shut up. But now what the ****, maybe some of you didin't have good experiences with people from Quebec, thats just like you may have a scammer from your province as well. Scammers are all over not only in Quebec. I am understanding why the las 6 or seven transactions i have had here that i never got rated. When i transact now i wait for the rating first and the i will rate.
And now, maybe some will just tell me too f*** off and if so well i just might. Join date 12-30-2008 when will the last day be?
Abenaki-Warrior

Actually I had a fantastic buying experience in 1979 with a guy in Afghanistan

His ad read:

FOR SALE
ONE SOVIET MADE MILITARY RIFLE 7.62X39
NEVER FIRED, DROPPED ONCE $300 OBO

How could I refuse such truth in advertising???

wildwoods 10-20-2020 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huntinstuff (Post 4252074)
Actually I had a fantastic buying experience in 1979 with a guy in Afghanistan

His ad read:

FOR SALE
ONE SOVIET MADE MILITARY RIFLE 7.62X39
NEVER FIRED, DROPPED ONCE $300 OBO

How could I refuse such truth in advertising???

You have such a warped sense of humour. This is hilarious :sHa_shakeshout:

catnthehat 10-20-2020 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean2 (Post 4251911)
One guy I had a problem with had 300 positive trade ratings. He got banned 6 months after I had problems.s with him and it turns out there were a whole bunch of other guys like me, so u can't even take trader ratings as unvarnished truth, This guy obviously had issues or financial problems and turned bad for some reason.

Very True, Oldgutpile got scammed by a guy from B.C. with good trader ratings and I was one of those ratings!:thinking-006:
he asked me about him, and I told him I had several dealings with the guy with no issues, the last one being a pretty high end gun with O/U rifle and shotgun barrels and a set of 228 gauge tubes as well as a QD scope mount!
I don't think the guy ever has resurfaced, althoough he may be on a different site other than what I frequent.
Cat

grunt007 10-20-2020 10:55 PM

I've even stopped eating french fries.

chickensashimi 10-21-2020 12:10 AM

.....the only good thing to ever come outta Quebec was an empty bus!!


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