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camping4life 09-16-2014 09:50 PM

ex - employer wont pay
 
Hey guys.
I hope someone here can steer me in the right direction.
I just quit with a smaller owner/operator sat. Without notice.
Was in probationary period and this guy didn't deserve it at all.
I had the funds in my acct. Sat. As pay was for Sept 15th then today it was gone. I'm assuming he claimed a payroll error which is how he got the money back.
I have called him over and over and he will not pick up. Should I go to the Labour board? File a claim for small claims court? Or what should I do?
Thanks!

harrydude 09-16-2014 09:58 PM

Yes call labour board. If that don't work 2x4 him up side the head

Confront him in person.

Do you have paper work of hrs

wildcat111 09-16-2014 10:02 PM

call the labor board, they will take care of it for you

camping4life 09-16-2014 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrydude (Post 2551754)
Yes call labour board. If that don't work 2x4 him up side the head

Confront him in person.

Do you have paper work of hrs

I'd like to!
Yes I have proof. He's 2 hours away but I'll be making a trip up there probably tomorrow if I dont hear from him

Ken07AOVette 09-16-2014 10:06 PM

If you don't have any luck pm me. I can help.

sillyak 09-16-2014 10:07 PM

My wife had a very similar thing happen. Called the labour board, left the shady employer an email saying as much, a few weeks later cheque was in her hand.

camping4life 09-16-2014 10:11 PM

Thanks guys.
You bet ken I will.
It just really ****ed me off! I don't care if he screws me over but my family depends on my income and that really doesn't sit good with me.

rog 09-16-2014 10:34 PM

Going through something similar here.
Question, when an employee gives written notice of resignation of one week (less than one year employed) and the owner says leave now. Does the employer have to pay the employee for the week?

coreya3212 09-16-2014 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rog (Post 2551795)
Going through something similar here.
Question, when an employee gives written notice of resignation of one week (less than one year employed) and the owner says leave now. Does the employer have to pay the employee for the week?

Yes, assuming this is after three months of employment, and employer did not have cause.

troutbug 09-16-2014 10:40 PM

There is this guy named Ken, he will get you your money, He eats people who owe for breakfast LOL

petew 09-17-2014 11:25 AM

First thing is talk to the Bank and find out who made a withdrawal.

dmcbride 09-17-2014 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petew (Post 2552069)
First thing is talk to the Bank and find out who made a withdrawal.

X2

MoFugger21 09-17-2014 11:38 AM

To OP, as many have said, talk to the labour board.


Quote:

Originally Posted by rog (Post 2551795)
Going through something similar here.
Question, when an employee gives written notice of resignation of one week (less than one year employed) and the owner says leave now. Does the employer have to pay the employee for the week?

From the 'Employment Standards Code':

Termination of employment by an employee

58(1) Except as otherwise provided in subsection (2), to terminate
employment an employee must give the employer a written
termination notice of at least
(a) one week, if the employee has been employed by the
employer for more than 3 months but less than 2 years, or

Expediting termination of employment after an employee’s
termination notice


59(1) If an employee gives a termination notice that is the
minimum notice required to be given by the employee and the
employer wishes to terminate the employee’s employment before
the end of the employee’s notice period, the employer must pay the
employee an amount at least equal to the wages that the employee
would have earned if the employee had worked the employee’s
regular hours of work for the remainder of the notice period given
by the employee.

tchammer 09-17-2014 01:02 PM

Rog, I am not sure in your situation. All I know is that in construction I have to pay more vacation pay percentage wise, and that I pay it out on every cheque. This allows me to lay off guys without any notice, Ie. if we ran out of work. But this also does not allow them to collect EI for the first two weeks after the layoff notice. So it might depend on if you are paid out vacation pay on every cheque, and if that is the case you probably should be getting about 10% vacation pay if you are classified as seasonal construction work.

tchammer 09-17-2014 01:05 PM

I should add that the two weeks before EI kicks in has always been when my guys have gone to apprenticeship training, luckily I have not had to ever lay guys off due to lack of work, knock on wood!:)

javlin101 09-17-2014 01:13 PM

Yes by all means call the labor board. They have interesting ways to deal with this issue. A few years back I gave 2 weeks and the employer made me work the 2 weeks. When I left the Manager informed me that he was holding my last chq until he was sure I did not sabotage any accounts I handled.

I called the labor board and they told me if I worked the 2 weeks the employer was legally obligated to have all monies owed to me payable on the last day of work. They also told me if I was not satisfied to let them know and they would call the company and will request an audit on them due to an employee issue(me of course).

I had my full chq in 3 days after I told their HR department this.

No company wants to be audited by the Labor board.

FishingMOM 09-17-2014 03:06 PM

I'd be closing that account and opening a new one if someone is fiddling with your accounts.

Lefty-Canuck 09-17-2014 04:01 PM

The way I understand it is the employer tells you when you start a job and if you leave on your own terms you tell them when you are leaving.

If you give six weeks notice in writing and they tell you to never come back...they are on the hook for six weeks of pay, or whatever term you set forth to them when YOU terminated your employment.

LC

Ken07AOVette 09-17-2014 04:20 PM

PM sent.

Don't wait too long, you need to act fast with the labor board, and barring that I can help.

grouse_hunter 09-17-2014 06:04 PM

Another vote for labor board. They helped me get my cheque from a spiteful ex-employer.

WCTHEMI 09-17-2014 06:38 PM

Labor board would be my first call seeing as how your old employer won't respond to your attempts to contact them.

coastalhunter 09-17-2014 07:05 PM

And this is why you don't give notice.

Duramaximos 09-17-2014 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmcbride (Post 2552071)
X2


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck (Post 2552257)
The way I understand it is the employer tells you when you start a job and if you leave on your own terms you tell them when you are leaving.

If you give six weeks notice in writing and they tell you to never come back...they are on the hook for six weeks of pay, or whatever term you set forth to them when YOU terminated your employment.

LC

Not exactly. The employer is only on the hook for the minimum notice period required by law. If the employee chooses to give extra notice, they could find themselves out of work and pay sooner than they anticipated. I would not suggest any employee gives more notice than the minimum required by law for this very reason.

pickrel pat 09-17-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duramaximos (Post 2552453)
Not exactly. The employer is only on the hook for the minimum notice period required by law. If the employee chooses to give extra notice, they could find themselves out of work and pay sooner than they anticipated. I would not suggest any employee gives more notice than the minimum required by law for this very reason.

Yup

220swifty 09-17-2014 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coastalhunter (Post 2552414)
And this is why you don't give notice.

He didn't.

plinker 09-17-2014 09:01 PM

The labour board is your friend. They love going after employers who screw over employees. I reported a company in the 90's to them and they were like a dog on a bone. And because the company got caught in a lie, they audited them also.

JohnnyD 09-17-2014 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=rog;2551795]Going through something similar here.
Question, when an employee gives written notice of resignation of one week (less than one year employed) and the owner says leave now. Does the employer have to pay the employee for the week?[/QUOTE

In addition to the previous statements about termination/resignation notice requirements, this is also regulated by industry. Unfortunately, for construction employees you can be let go at anytime without notice or termination pay. Same rules apply to an employee quitting, no notice is required regardless of time employed. Of course if you screw you boss over and don't provide a courteous 2 weeks notice I wouldn't count on relying on him for a reference.

Mhunter51 09-19-2014 02:26 PM

Mostly good advise here, but the OP " Quite WITHOUT notice". Unless I'm missing something here the OP walked in and said I ain't working no more- NOW. If he didn't give the prescibed one weeks notice he doesn't get paid. Don't know if it's different in Alberta than here in Sask but I worked with someone who did the same, and they did not pay her. She went to the Labour board and because of no notice there was no last pay-check.

Lildog 09-19-2014 02:47 PM

cash
 
Ya' know, and I might be mistaken, however I'm almost sure that once that cash hit your account no one had a legal right to take it out again without a court order. 1st move I would make is to go talk to the 'manager' of your bank and ask what the details were around this. Guaranteed he had to give the ok for this to happen.

elkhunter11 09-19-2014 03:29 PM

Quote:

Ya' know, and I might be mistaken, however I'm almost sure that once that cash hit your account no one had a legal right to take it out again without a court order. 1st move I would make is to go talk to the 'manager' of your bank and ask what the details were around this. Guaranteed he had to give the ok for this to happen.
Exactly! I would be talking to the bank manager ASAP. I am thinking that your problem, would soon turn into his problem if he let someone take money out of your account, without authorization from you.


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