Thanks Randy, I'll check it out. My optimum power on my '06 and my 7'08 is roughly x7.5. I knew what the +/- in inches was for my Burris on my '06 at various distances at x14 magnification so I might as well check it out for x9 magnification on the Zeiss. If it's +/- an inch or two I'm good with that for hunting. I'll give up a little accuracy, but not much, for x1.5 magnification.
I think that I might buy a second Zeiss Conquest in order to simplify things. :lol: |
After having tried a few different bdc scopes I decided to try a mildot scope with mil adjustment turrets. It is hands down the simplest system I have ever used I love mine. Just a thought.Wally
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Thanks for the link. Video was a great explanation for the "scope challenged" people such as myself! I do not have a "Z" but another model BDC and your instruction was so much better than the manufactures instructions. Thanks again. Gunny |
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Once I have the scope zeroed at 200 yards,I shoot to do the final calibration. If you feed in the proper data,my own shooting has proven the calculated correct magnification to be very close. |
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Honestly, who confirms/zeros their rifle based on one shot? I still have to check the site that enhtr mentioned. More knowledge before I head to the range...........:) |
Of course the calculator is useful for initial setting - kind of like boresighting. But I have seen on numerous occasions the ballistic calculator giving the wrong dope, as much as 2MOA at 600 yards in one case (that’s 12 inches)with my 7mmRM and 162 SST's this past summer. I needed to drop my input velocity by 100 fps from what my chrono and calculator told me to get everything lined up precisely.
And assuming your shooting a properly zeroed rifle (a given i figured), 1-2 shots is all that is required to validate field bullet drop and suntension setting. But more shots are always better:)! |
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Yes, advertised BC vs real commonly introduces error - in my case I adjusted MV to compensate. But there is a lot of potential eror in all the input variables and that is my point. If one gets a couple variables wrong (how many actully chrono their loads, measure sight height, etc ?), then the calculator has limited utility, and can actually give one a false sense of LR accuracy and capability. It's a fine line....
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I'm not sure what you mean you adjusted the muzzle velocity to compensate. |
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Bar 3 = 301 yds Bar 4 = 397 yds Bar 5 = 500 yds Bar 6 = 600 yds I can live with that. :) |
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And, for a handful, the system just doesn't work perfectly and you are right there is no advantage other than your secondary reticles are numbered and you are not required to count them each time you make a shot. Truthfully, for something that shoots too flat for the Rapid Z, I'd recommend a turret scope with yardage indicated turrets anyhow. |
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And once again, your results depend on the data that you enter, so if you don't use the actual velocity of the load in your rifle, and the B.C. of the actual bullet, the results could vary. Velocities published by the manufacturers can easily fall 100fps or more short in individual rifles, which can be a factor at longer distances. The worst situation is the one that I used as an example previously, where your load shoots flatter than any of the available Rapid Z reticles. You can't calibrate by adjusting magnification, so you can either attempt a band aid fix by playing with the zero range, which isn't a proper solution, or you have to look at other options than a Rapid Z reticle. |
Here is mine with a Leupold 3.5-10X40 with the B&C reticle at 10X.
150 TSX, 3250 fps, never over 3” high 0.408 G1 Zero at 250 yards 50 +0.7” 100 +2.1” 150 +2.4” 200 +1.8” 250 ZERO 300 -3.0” 350 1st Bar 400 ½ 1st & 2nd 450 2nd bar 520 Small bar 575 Post |
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and....that optimum mag thing is only if you choose to use it. Live targets are rearely standing at those precise distances lol. Print a table or reticle reticle using max power on your scope, laminate it and slap it on your rifle but with an elastic. My 25.06......with factory Fusion ammo, 120 grs, my "optimum magnification" is 8.7 (on a rapidZ600 3-9X Zeiss). The Strelok app prints great reticles. You can email them to yourself and print them off as you like. |
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30.06 with 165gr Nosler ballistic tips 56.5gr IMR 4350 Muzzle velocity 2807 fps (Not 100% sure that this is correct) Optimum magnification = 7.56 ..................................... I may buy the same scope for my 7mm08 7mm08 with 140gr Nosler ballistic tips 45gr IMR 4350 Used a MV of 2781 fps (Not 100% sure that this is correct) Optimum magnification = 7.48 |
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I downloaded the Strelock app for my iphone last night but I haven't played with it yet. I'm very interested in seeing what the difference in zero for the hash marks are at max magnification. I also want to see how my Burris Fullfield II fairs. It'll determine whether I'll keep it or replace it with another Zeiss Conquest. |
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