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shortgrub 11-22-2017 06:21 PM

Drive by
 
drive by shooting today just north of my house, 2 mulies dead 1 with back leg shot off and just left. :angry3:

Jeron Kahyar 11-22-2017 06:23 PM

Are you saying that they did not exit the vehicle or shot from the road during this?

If the animals were left and you saw the incident did you report it? Being angry and venting here does not help the situation.

shortgrub 11-22-2017 06:26 PM

seen
 
people should always look around you never know who is watching.

last minute 11-22-2017 06:33 PM

Hum I think there's more to the story thanks for the narration of what happened not sure that is irrelevant of happened to their legs etc but sad to hear

last minute 11-22-2017 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shortgrub (Post 3673414)
people should always look around you never know who is watching.

If your doing it right who the f cares who is watching :thinking-006: just saying

shortgrub 11-22-2017 06:49 PM

watching
 
they couldn't have been to bright they drove right by the guy standing outside the pump jack

mckenzieclan 11-22-2017 06:55 PM

I wish public stoning was still a thing,...

shortgrub 11-22-2017 07:04 PM

legs
 
2 dead and another running around with it's back leg shot off

oldgutpile 11-22-2017 07:09 PM

Drive by
 
Any chance this is related to a certain person who got punched and lost his deer earlier in the season?
That land is posted to the nines, and there is no way that someone made a mistake

shortgrub 11-22-2017 07:31 PM

hunting
 
The ranch has been closed to hunting since 1994 until 2014, we are trying to build back some good mule deer genetics. In 2014 we opened up to bird and some deer hunting. Now due to the lose of one of my non typical mule deer by two dirt bags in a Toyota. I see myself having to close the ranch again, as I have lost one of my prime breeding stock for future generations. That will be 9000 acres of deeded land CLOSED!!

Hillbilly 12 11-22-2017 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by last minute (Post 3673421)
If your doing it right who the f cares who is watching :thinking-006: just saying

X2, it's one thing to kill an animal and make use of it, it's another thing to wound and waste animals, hopefully the next life they and the animals who are wounded in pain.

roughneckin 11-22-2017 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shortgrub (Post 3673486)
The ranch has been closed to hunting since 1994 until 2014, we are trying to build back some good mule deer genetics. In 2014 we opened up to bird and some deer hunting. Now due to the lose of one of my non typical mule deer by two dirt bags in a Toyota. I see myself having to close the ranch again, as I have lost one of my prime breeding stock for future generations. That will be 9000 acres of deeded land CLOSED!!

One of your non typical mule deer? Is this on a mule deer farm? No one should be hunting like that on or off private land for sure

IR_mike 11-23-2017 01:09 AM

Report it and try to recover the spent cases.......I have found a few of them when the exact same scenario has happened in this area.

Full Curl Earl 11-23-2017 06:39 AM

Posts
 
There is so much of this thread missing? What's up with that? Is this a deer farm in some other province?

catnthehat 11-23-2017 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl (Post 3673708)
There is so much of this thread missing? What's up with that? Is this a deer farm in some other province?

Nope just a rancher trying to get the mule deer herd on his deeded land back up to what they used to be .
He only refers to them as " his" deer because they live on his ranch , but he knows full well they can walk off at any time
No high fences or anything like that .
Cat

shortgrub 11-23-2017 06:57 AM

just 4 wires
 
thanks Cat. I still got the high wall.

Xiph0id 11-23-2017 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catnthehat (Post 3673711)
Nope just a rancher trying to get the mule deer herd on his deeded land back up to what they used to be .
He only refers to them as " his" deer because they live on his ranch , but he knows full well they can walk off at any time
No high fences or anything like that .
Cat

I'm not sure why, but it really bothers me when people say that

Especially ones who only own a 1/4 section.

Also, OP, please don't cry and lecture us about pochaers.

KyleSS 11-23-2017 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shortgrub (Post 3673486)
The ranch has been closed to hunting since 1994 until 2014, we are trying to build back some good mule deer genetics. In 2014 we opened up to bird and some deer hunting. Now due to the lose of one of my non typical mule deer by two dirt bags in a Toyota. I see myself having to close the ranch again, as I have lost one of my prime breeding stock for future generations. That will be 9000 acres of deeded land CLOSED!!

I think what you're doing is great. The mule deer population in this province is in dire straits. To me it is because people seem to shoot any deer as opposed to targeting mature deer. I wish more ranchers and farmers had the land mass and mind set to carry out what you are.

Good on you and thanks for being a stewad of the land.

elkhunter11 11-23-2017 08:00 AM

Report the scumbags and press charges. F&W should be able to come up with enough charges for a good fine and suspension.

58thecat 11-23-2017 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 3673753)
Report the scumbags and press charges. F&W should be able to come up with enough charges for a good fine and suspension.

Exactly, act on this quickly.

Ranger CS 11-23-2017 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortgrub (Post 3673486)
The ranch has been closed to hunting since 1994 until 2014, we are trying to build back some good mule deer genetics. In 2014 we opened up to bird and some deer hunting. Now due to the lose of one of my non typical mule deer by two dirt bags in a Toyota. I see myself having to close the ranch again, as I have lost one of my prime breeding stock for future generations. That will be 9000 acres of deeded land CLOSED!!

I understand and appreciate your good intentions trying to restore a healthy
population of mule deer on your ranch. I do take exception to you referring to the deer on your ranch as yours. You own the ranch, not the deer.
Having said that, thank you for proactively doing what you can to restore a healthy population of mule deer in your area. I respectfully consider you a good steward of the wildlife living on your land.

LeroyvdH 11-23-2017 09:09 AM

This is why we can't have nice things....

ks.snow 11-23-2017 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger CS (Post 3673806)
I understand and appreciate your good intentions trying to restore a healthy
population of mule deer on your ranch. I do take exception to you referring to the deer on your ranch as yours. You own the ranch, not the deer.
Having said that, thank you for proactively doing what you can to restore a healthy population of mule deer in your area. I respectfully consider you a good steward of the wildlife living on your land.

Why can't we have more respectful comments like this on the forum. Still stating your own opinion, but giving props where they are due. We have enough odds stacked against us we don't need to be b****ing back and forth at one another. Don't understand why we hardly support our own these days. Too much bashing going on for my liking.

slough shark 11-23-2017 09:44 AM

Did they have permission and were irresponsible or were they outright poaching? Just asking because if they did not have permission closing the land will not stop these activities. As a side not if you are trying to establish good genetics your greatest ally is a number of line minded hunters that will help you harvest target animals and leave others alone.

rem338win 11-23-2017 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger CS (Post 3673806)
I understand and appreciate your good intentions trying to restore a healthy
population of mule deer on your ranch. I do take exception to you referring to the deer on your ranch as yours. You own the ranch, not the deer.
Having said that, thank you for proactively doing what you can to restore a healthy population of mule deer in your area. I respectfully consider you a good steward of the wildlife living on your land.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ks.snow (Post 3673829)
Why can't we have more respectful comments like this on the forum. Still stating your own opinion, but giving props where they are due. We have enough odds stacked against us we don't need to be b****ing back and forth at one another. Don't understand why we hardly support our own these days. Too much bashing going on for my liking.

Stuff like that doesnt even need to be said.

The landowner is taking ownership of the situation the Wildlife living on his land is in. That's what should be read.

Posting "you're a really nice guy, but...." is a passive aggressive way of stating the opposite.

rem338win 11-23-2017 09:52 AM

That isn't ok Shortgrub. Anything left behind to help identify the vehicle if not the dinks that did this?

Don't let the poachers ruin it for the sportsmen.

fish_e_o 11-23-2017 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortgrub (Post 3673408)
drive by shooting today just north of my house, 2 mulies dead 1 with back leg shot off and just left. :angry3:

did he hold his gun sideways?

Ranger CS 11-23-2017 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rem338win (Post 3673846)
Stuff like that doesnt even need to be said.

The landowner is taking ownership of the situation the Wildlife living on his land is in. That's what should be read.

Posting "you're a really nice guy, but...." is a passive aggressive way of stating the opposite.

One reads what is written. Now you sir are making a poor attempt to interpret ones response to what was written. Are you a highly trained linguistic analysist as well an accomplished psychologist? I simply stated my opinion regarding what was written. Nothing more, nothing less.

rem338win 11-23-2017 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranger CS (Post 3673868)
One reads what is written. Now you sir are making a poor attempt to interpret ones response to what was written. Are you a highly trained linguistic analysist as well an accomplished psychologist? I simply stated my opinion regarding what was written. Nothing more, nothing less.

I actually do have training in linguistics (That's not what we're doing here btw) and psychology (again not whats being done here).

It's common for people to use passive aggression when they are stating their opinion and still worried about being a nice guy. It's called riding the fence. Recognizing it is as easy as reading books and seeing examples. No degrees or doctorates need apply.

It's also very common for rural locals that have animals they see regularly on their property to call those animals "theirs". These people also commonly take ownership in these animals wellbeing and learn from them.

I saw what you wrote, recognized what it was, and stated my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Ranger CS 11-23-2017 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rem338win (Post 3673877)
I actually do have training in linguistics (That's not what we're doing here btw) and psychology (again not whats being done here).

It's common for people to use passive aggression when they are stating their opinion and still worried about being a nice guy. It's called riding the fence. Recognizing it is as easy as reading books and seeing examples. No degrees or doctorates need apply. It's also very common for rural locals that have animals they see regularly on their property to call those animals "theirs". These people also commonly take ownership in these animals wellbeing and learn from them.

I saw what you wrote, recognized what it was, and stated my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.


To be clear I am not worried about being a nice guy and am not riding any fence. You seem to have difficulty interpreting what I wrote. If you try again you should be able to interpret and understand the fact that I made two specific points in response to Shortgrub's post. One, he owns the land and does not own the deer he referred to as his. Secondly I fully understand and appreciate Shortgrub's efforts to do what he can to restore a healthy mule deer population on and around his land. For that, I consider him a good steward of wildlife. I suggest you read the current thread regarding Civility. I think you may gain some perspective.


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