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C&C Outdoors 05-21-2022 09:19 PM

22 lr for first time shooter
 
Good evening AO members, first off hope everyone is taking in & enjoying the good weather we have been having so far for the long weekend!

Currently looking for a rifle, thinking in 22lr for my son to start shooting this yr. He turned 6 this past december & has accompanied me on pretty much every hunting/camping trip since he was 6 months old, he has loved every minute of it as much as I have from what I have taken in from it.

Wanting to get him his first rifle to start shooting on paper this yr, thinking a scoped 22lr in a bolt action might be the way to go in a wood stock, want it to be something he can hang onto for yrs to come.

Open to all suggestions and even different calibers, thank you in advance :)

heybert 05-21-2022 09:32 PM

How about a Rascal? Single shot with a peep sight.

freeride 05-21-2022 09:33 PM

At a young age even a brake action pellet gun would be a blast.
I shot a pellet gun so much that my parents would make me rake the lawn by the targets to pick up pellets after winter.

Buckhead 05-21-2022 09:53 PM

Savage Mark II

C&C Outdoors 05-21-2022 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeride (Post 4523122)
At a young age even a brake action pellet gun would be a blast.
I shot a pellet gun so much that my parents would make me rake the lawn by the targets to pick up pellets after winter.

A brake style pellet gun is a blast & is the first rifle I started with actually, took care of many of the neighbors gophers with it in those days! Great idea & thank you, just might consider that for him:)

antlercarver 05-21-2022 10:05 PM

Young shooter
 
This is only my opinion. 6 years of age is much to young to handle a tool that is capable of killing someone. A pellet gun for a few years until the shooter proves
themselves of having the sense to be safe. I know many will say I had a gun or I did not shoot anyone, but accidents happen even with adults.

LarryG 05-21-2022 10:07 PM

just a fyi:
a break action is a type of pellet gun you are discussing
a disc brake is a type of brake, such as on a car.

btw, I'd recommend the rascal over a pellet gun.
However, there's nothing wrong with a pellet gun if you want to get him started in the garage or something.

catnthehat 05-21-2022 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by antlercarver (Post 4523134)
This is only my opinion. 6 years of age is much to young to handle a tool that is capable of killing someone. A pellet gun for a few years until the shooter proves
themselves of having the sense to be safe. I know many will say I had a gun or I did not shoot anyone, but accidents happen even with adults.

Every kid is different, IIRC I was shooting when I was 6 and competing by the time I was 8.
Cat

fordtruckin 05-21-2022 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by catnthehat (Post 4523136)
Every kid is different, IIRC I was shooting when I was 6 and competing by the time I was 8.
Cat

I agree with cat. If your turning them loose on their own then absolutely not! Under proper supervision it’s a good age to start teaching about firearm safety ranger safety proper handling etc…

brewster29 05-21-2022 10:55 PM

I recommend a single shot. I have been taking my 6 and 8 year old grandsons to the range. I have two Cooey 39 rifles for them to use, one is cut to 12” lop.

I control the ammunition by dispensing one round at a time. The 6 yo is a maniac and would be dangerous if given a repeater.

A Savage Rascal is definitely an easier rifle to use- it has a short lop, no awkward cocking of the bolt, and much better trigger.

C&C Outdoors 05-21-2022 11:53 PM

Thank you Cat & Ford Truckin, safety is foremost & paramount each & every time in the field or at the bench!

I'm thinking from the greatly appreciated responses a pellet gun will be the way to start the little man to start out but would like to in the near future get him something along those lines if he continues to show the respect & responsibility that he has so far.....Can't wait to reward him!

teledogs 05-22-2022 04:07 AM

I started with a pellet gun and my interest in them has never waned. I still enjoy them and recently picked up a Diana model 34 that I am so excited about. I taught my son to shoot with one. I bought him a Beeman 177 cal.
This one: https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/b...-0755025p.html
It is accurate and easy to break open and shoots at under 500ft/sec. Not the highest quality but a great learner. If you are interested I would pass this pellet gun onto to your son free of charge. I also have a good supply of pellets I would include. I was going to donate it to someone and after reading your thread I just wanted to put the offer out there. It would make me feel good to put a smile on your boy. I am currently staying in Edmonton for a while and can arrange to have it brought here. Please let me know if you are interested. My wife is with me and heads out your way to visit a friend and she may be able to bring it your way.

brewster29 05-22-2022 05:15 AM

TD, you are a class act. After reading your “other” post and now this one I can only wish you the best for your road ahead.

freeride 05-22-2022 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryG (Post 4523135)
just a fyi:
a break action is a type of pellet gun you are discussing
a disc brake is a type of brake, such as on a car.

btw, I'd recommend the rascal over a pellet gun.
However, there's nothing wrong with a pellet gun if you want to get him started in the garage or something.

Your right I did use the wrong break their.

lannie 05-22-2022 07:15 AM

The CZ Scout is a very nice youth 22. Comes with a 1 shot magazine but any 5 or 10 shot CZ mag will work as the action is the exact same as the full size 22's.
Little more pricey than the others but the quality is there to justify it. We have a couple in the 452 line up but they do manufacture them in both series after.

kingrat 05-22-2022 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by heybert (Post 4523121)
How about a Rascal? Single shot with a peep sight.

Can put a scope on it if need be, had our rascal for years now. Boys outgrew it years ago so I use it for trapping more often than not, awesome little gun.

58thecat 05-22-2022 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by C&C Outdoors (Post 4523132)
A brake style pellet gun is a blast & is the first rifle I started with actually, took care of many of the neighbors gophers with it in those days! Great idea & thank you, just might consider that for him:)


This would be my route first, then after a few years of him knowing how to safely use the pellet rifle upgrade to a bolt action 22 but I would stay away from a auto loader just don’t need a live round fed in after every shot.

Good luck sounds like you will have some good times ahead


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obsessed1 05-22-2022 08:19 AM

Get him a pellet gun, bbgun, tiny 22lr.....teach him everything about each one, teach him every safety rule and be very firm with it. Expose your kids to guns as much as possible, teach them proper handling safety, and allow them to grow in thier use as they prove thier maturity and trustworthiness. My kids "cut thier teeth on a gun barel" so to speak and have been taught since young ages...they are given every opportunity to shoot totally supervised whenever they want ( often by age 3-4) and they can handle my guns supervised whenever they ask. I have a tc hot shot but any of the tiny 22s are a great choice for a young shooter. Have fun and give them realistic target options ( reactive are really fun for kids) Make firearm safety the very first and highest priority...make no exceptions.

257Shooter 05-22-2022 08:38 AM

Taught my boys gun safety and how to shoot with a Henry mini bolt youth.
The youngest had trouble with the open sights so I mounted a scope for him.
It is a great little shooter, and in my opinion, very safe to use for young shooters - under supervision until proven safe and competent!
Taken grouse and it's fair share of gophers.

Dean2 05-22-2022 01:21 PM

You can buy great old Husqvarna, Valmet, Anschutz single shot rifles from places like TradeX and other sellers, for real good prices. They are great old 22s made with quality metal and decent walnut stocks. They are inexpensive enough you can buy two so you can have a short stock version and a regualr length for when he gets older.

C&C Outdoors 05-22-2022 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teledogs (Post 4523163)
I started with a pellet gun and my interest in them has never waned. I still enjoy them and recently picked up a Diana model 34 that I am so excited about. I taught my son to shoot with one. I bought him a Beeman 177 cal.
This one: https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/b...-0755025p.html
It is accurate and easy to break open and shoots at under 500ft/sec. Not the highest quality but a great learner. If you are interested I would pass this pellet gun onto to your son free of charge. I also have a good supply of pellets I would include. I was going to donate it to someone and after reading your thread I just wanted to put the offer out there. It would make me feel good to put a smile on your boy. I am currently staying in Edmonton for a while and can arrange to have it brought here. Please let me know if you are interested. My wife is with me and heads out your way to visit a friend and she may be able to bring it your way.

I believe my son would be very grateful and happy on such a kind, generous offer! Thank you for that Teledogs!
After reading some of the replies I'm thinking a pellet gun of this style is the way to start for him and a God way to get comfortable/ be able to show and demonstrate taught safe handling skills.
We are more than willing to travel so you can meet the young man you're offering the pellet gun to and for him to be able to say thank you to such a kid offer:)

teledogs 05-22-2022 03:44 PM

Oh that makes me so happy! My son will bring it to Edmonton this week. I am currently at the UofA hospital and I may be into treatments so as much as I want to meet you and your son I am not sure I will be able to. My wife may just have to deliver it. I would however love to see some pictures or a short video of him devoping his shooting skills. I will keep you updated and I will pm you my phone number! I think I am more excited over this than your boy will be... :)

C&C Outdoors 05-22-2022 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by teledogs (Post 4523283)
Oh that makes me so happy! My son will bring it to Edmonton this week. I am currently at the UofA hospital and I may be into treatments so as much as I want to meet you and your son I am not sure I will be able to. My wife may just have to deliver it. I would however love to see some pictures or a short video of him devoping his shooting skills. I will keep you updated and I will pm you my phone number! I think I am more excited over this than your boy will be... :)

Well you absolutely made his day sir and thanks again. Will definitely send you pics and a vid of him shooting the pellet gun.
My family is praying for you and wishing you all the best in any of your upcoming treatment at the UofA .

Who Da Fisherman 05-22-2022 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C&C Outdoors (Post 4523263)
I believe my son would be very grateful and happy on such a kind, generous offer! Thank you for that Teledogs!
After reading some of the replies I'm thinking a pellet gun of this style is the way to start for him and a God way to get comfortable/ be able to show and demonstrate taught safe handling skills.
We are more than willing to travel so you can meet the young man you're offering the pellet gun to and for him to be able to say thank you to such a kid offer:)

I have a set of rings that I Bought from Teledogs that fit this rig.
They ended up not working fit wise, so I will happily donate these to you.
Shot me a PM with your address and I will get them of to you next week.
Cheers
WDF

teledogs 05-22-2022 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Who Da Fisherman (Post 4523313)
I have a set of rings that I Bought from Teledogs that fit this rig.
They ended up not working fit wise, so I will happily donate these to you.
Shot me a PM with your address and I will get them of to you next week.
Cheers
WDF

Sorry to hear the rings did not work out for you. Those rings came off a Diana model 34 and not this rifle. This pellet gun has rings and a scope included.

C&C Outdoors 05-22-2022 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Who Da Fisherman (Post 4523313)
I have a set of rings that I Bought from Teledogs that fit this rig.
They ended up not working fit wise, so I will happily donate these to you.
Shot me a PM with your address and I will get them of to you next week.
Cheers
WDF

Thank you kindly for the offer WDF, from what teledogs posted it doesn't sound like he'll be needing any.
Very much appreciated!

C&C Outdoors 05-22-2022 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean2 (Post 4523255)
You can buy great old Husqvarna, Valmet, Anschutz single shot rifles from places like TradeX and other sellers, for real good prices. They are great old 22s made with quality metal and decent walnut stocks. They are inexpensive enough you can buy two so you can have a short stock version and a regualr length for when he gets older.

Great suggestion Dean2, I will certainly explore this option for when the timing seems right.

I would also like to thank all that replied on this thread as there has been many great points, suggestions and advice given! I do appreciate ALL of it!


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