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MooseRiverTrapper 01-14-2018 04:53 PM

Aoha
 
Alberta Outdoor Heritage Association

Rebuilding our hunting, fishing and trapping heritage while increasing opportunity and management of a mature and stable population.

United we stand. Divided we fall.

We can create an organization that has extensive financing, the undivided attention of our government, and harmonized goals from all user groups.


Or, the failing AFGA, SCI, FNAWS, ATA, ABA, ATHA, APOS, ACA, AHEIA, SAWT, NAWT can continue to fight amongst each other and cripple our sacred Alberta outdoor heritage.

fallen1817 01-14-2018 05:04 PM

I love the idea, but can we rename it
Alberta
Life-Long
Outdoor
Heritage
Association?

boah 01-14-2018 06:09 PM

With the amount of infighting amongst outdoorsman, I don't think it would ever fly. Conversations on this site are proof.

Dewey Cox 01-14-2018 07:25 PM

Alberta Special Society for Heritage Outdoor Leisure and Entertainment.

wildwoods 01-15-2018 10:32 PM

I love the concept. And would be on board

Salavee 01-15-2018 10:37 PM

I'm all for something like this. We have to go in some direction !

Lefty-Canuck 01-15-2018 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper (Post 3709184)
Alberta Outdoor Heritage Association

Rebuilding our hunting, fishing and trapping heritage while increasing opportunity and management of a mature and stable population.

United we stand. Divided we fall.

We can create an organization that has extensive financing, the undivided attention of our government, and harmonized goals from all user groups.


Or, the failing AFGA, SCI, FNAWS, ATA, ABA, ATHA, APOS, ACA, AHEIA, SAWT, NAWT can continue to fight amongst each other and cripple our sacred Alberta outdoor heritage.

How many of he "failing" organizations are you member of? Are you an executive of any?

LC

Bub 01-15-2018 10:48 PM

Sounds good. That last paragraph, however, sounds like it is another one to add to that list (in terms of fight among each other).

MooseRiverTrapper 01-15-2018 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck (Post 3710160)
How many of he "failing" organizations are you member of? Are you an executive of any?

LC

More then I’d like to admit. Anti hunting is no longer coffee shop talk in urban centers. They are funded and organized. Are we?

HunterDave 01-15-2018 11:04 PM

Sure, why not? Okay, who’s going to be first to give up their empire? :sHa_sarcasticlol:

koothunter 01-16-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dewey Cox (Post 3709292)
Alberta Special Society for Heritage Outdoor Leisure and Entertainment.

LOL! Can't believe no one enjoyed this as much as me yet.

Lefty-Canuck 01-16-2018 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by koothunter (Post 3710269)
LOL! Can't believe no one enjoyed this as much as me yet.

Yes I saw it too :)

LC

Full Curl Earl 01-17-2018 08:55 AM

I did
 
I enjoyed it as well!
I’m in Moose River,but AFGA has to be removed, there is no room for two.
The others you listed are special interest groups with different mandates.
You will need a legal team to fight the issues, that’s one area where AFGA fails.

calvin 01-17-2018 09:37 AM

thoughts
 
this is a step in the right direction. the only way in my opinion that something like this works is if the membership is 100% of the participants involved. what i would like to see is a checkoff paid when a wildlife certificate is purchased and then everyone is a member. My issue with the AFGA is that a small portion of the hunting population is a paying member. those members then work on an agenda that is not including all members of the hunting community. i said this before in a post a while back, that because i am involved in the industry, a model replicating the Alberta Beef Producers is what i would support. The zones are already in place. Each zone has reps elected, then out of that chairmen and so on are then elected or appointed. this infighting amongst each other has no purpose nor does it give direction. it serves as fodder for the people in which we are having issues with. one group with a 100% membership, thats the way to go.

MooseRiverTrapper 02-07-2018 12:14 PM

Also going to get APOS on board with this.

NCC 02-07-2018 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey Cox (Post 3709292)
Alberta Special Society for Heritage Outdoor Leisure and Entertainment.

That's the acronym of the year right there.

albertadave 02-07-2018 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper (Post 3709184)
Alberta Outdoor Heritage Association

Rebuilding our hunting, fishing and trapping heritage while increasing opportunity and management of a mature and stable population.

United we stand. Divided we fall.

We can create an organization that has extensive financing, the undivided attention of our government, and harmonized goals from all user groups.


Or, the failing AFGA, SCI, FNAWS, ATA, ABA, ATHA, APOS, ACA, AHEIA, SAWT, NAWT can continue to fight amongst each other and cripple our sacred Alberta outdoor heritage.

Wow. Quite the list of "failures" you've compiled there. You're really up to speed on things, aren't you? :rolleye2: Really have your finger on the pulse of what's going on. All these organizations, many of which are run on volunteer time, that according to you, are "Failing". Are they? Really? Ever asked to see the financial statements for any of them? Would you understand them, if you did? Do you have any idea where their money and efforts are going? Are you a member of any of them?
FNAWS doesn't even exist anymore. Hasn't for years. You might want to do a little more research before you start collecting membership dues for your new orgaization that's going come in and save us all. :thinking-006:

MooseRiverTrapper 02-07-2018 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albertadave (Post 3726648)
Wow. Quite the list of "failures" you've compiled there. You're really up to speed on things, aren't you? :rolleye2: Really have your finger on the pulse of what's going on. All these organizations, many of which are run on volunteer time, that according to you, are "Failing". Are they? Really? Ever asked to see the financial statements for any of them? Would you understand them, if you did? Do you have any idea where their money and efforts are going? Are you a member of any of them?
FNAWS doesn't even exist anymore. Hasn't for years. You might want to do a little more research before you start collecting membership dues for your new orgaization that's going come in and save us all. :thinking-006:

WSF as I know your familiar with. Hasn’t been “putting sheep on the mountain” in Alberta. Quite the opposite with the transplants actually. The bigger picture is when bighorns become a draw. What will WSF do for the general tag bighorn hunter in AB?

albertadave 02-07-2018 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper (Post 3726654)
WSF as I know your familiar with. Hasn’t been “putting sheep on the mountain” in Alberta. Quite the opposite with the transplants actually. The bigger picture is when bighorns become a draw. What will WSF do for the general tag bighorn hunter in AB?

A far more relevant question would be "What HAS wsfa DONE for the general tag bighorn hunter in AB?"

albertadave 02-07-2018 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper (Post 3726654)
WSF as I know your familiar with. Hasn’t been “putting sheep on the mountain” in Alberta. Quite the opposite with the transplants actually. The bigger picture is when bighorns become a draw. What will WSF do for the general tag bighorn hunter in AB?

Again, you really should get yourself informed. Are you one of the many that are under the false impression that wsfa sold sheep for transplants to the USA?

fish_e_o 02-07-2018 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper (Post 3726654)
WSF as I know your familiar with. Hasn’t been “putting sheep on the mountain” in Alberta. Quite the opposite with the transplants actually. The bigger picture is when bighorns become a draw. What will WSF do for the general tag bighorn hunter in AB?

yup

MooseRiverTrapper 02-07-2018 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albertadave (Post 3726697)
Again, you really should get yourself informed. Are you one of the many that are under the false impression that wsfa sold sheep for transplants to the USA?

That’s odd to assume.

What will the Alberta chapter do when well funded and organized anti hunting groups target trophy sheep hunting in Alberta?

albertadave 02-07-2018 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper (Post 3726714)
That’s odd to assume.

What will the Alberta chapter do when well funded and organized anti hunting groups target trophy sheep hunting in Alberta?

What's odd about it? You said: "Quite the opposite with the transplants actually" I'm not sure how else a person could take that? If I'm wrong, then please explain to me what you meant.

6.5swedeforelk 02-08-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NCC (Post 3726641)
That's the acronym of the year right there.

Can you hear the chant from APOS...

"We're number two".


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