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sstamand 01-08-2019 05:45 PM
Bolt and barrel fluting - where to go?
 
Any suggestions for gunsmiths capable of bolt and barrel fluting? Coralanes is pretty expensive and US options like Kampfeld have issues shipping gun parts back to Canada. There must be someone reputable out there that can spiral flute a bolt for a reasonable price. $250 for a bolt does not seem reasonable to me.

Cement Bench 01-08-2019 05:56 PM
Blue chip precision has a CNC lathe and can do barrels with real precision and take small cuts at a time to ensure a lack of heat and stress

MooseRiverTrapper 01-08-2019 06:07 PM
I heard corlanes is out sourcing their bolt fluting to a shop in Edmonton? Not sure if that’s true...

Robmcleod82 01-08-2019 06:34 PM
I had a guy that used to do my bolt fluting for me. He switched shops and is not currently doing them. Insite arms is doing bolt fluting.

sstamand 01-08-2019 09:54 PM
I tried to contact insite but they didn’t respond to the email. I saw a post on gunnutz saying they were doing bolts. Hopefully they respond.

Mastodon 01-08-2019 09:59 PM
Insite does really nice work. Im sure they will get back to you.

sstamand 01-08-2019 10:03 PM
Contacted Blue chip via Facebook. I’ll let you know if they reply and prices for those interested.

silver lab 01-08-2019 10:27 PM
There was a fella on this sight doing this sort of stuff. A quick search and his handle is: scotty454

diamond k 01-08-2019 10:31 PM
Karl at K&S in Edmonton did mine

He was doing them for Corlanes at one time. Not sure if that is still the case

Redneck 7 01-09-2019 06:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sstamand (Post 3907781)
Contacted Blue chip via Facebook. I’ll let you know if they reply and prices for those interested.
Do they have an email for the folks that don’t have Facebook? Where are they located, does anyone know?

marky_mark 01-09-2019 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sstamand (Post 3907770)
I tried to contact insite but they didn’t respond to the email. I saw a post on gunnutz saying they were doing bolts. Hopefully they respond.
I emailed them about some other stuff and they haven’t responded
My guess is they are on vacation

GMX 01-09-2019 07:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper (Post 3907568)
I heard corlanes is out sourcing their bolt fluting to a shop in Edmonton? Not sure if that’s true...
Yes CORLANES farms it out and they’ll lie to you about it to. I sent a gun up to them quoted a few months turn around 10 months later the barrel was ok the bolt handle looked horrible never did get the bolt sleeve finished. They tried stringing me along but some angry emails and phone calls every day the manager finally admitted they lost my bolt parts. Only send someone you hate there I should have called the better business bureau and lodged a complaint with the prof I had on them.
WORST GUN SHOP EVER!!!

cowmanbob 01-09-2019 09:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMX (Post 3907877)
Yes CORLANES farms it out and they’ll lie to you about it to. I sent a gun up to them quoted a few months turn around 10 months later the barrel was ok the bolt handle looked horrible never did get the bolt sleeve finished. They tried stringing me along but some angry emails and phone calls every day the manager finally admitted they lost my bolt parts. Only send someone you hate there I should have called the better business bureau and lodged a complaint with the prof I had on them.
WORST GUN SHOP EVER!!!
Too bad about your experience, I've had them do many projects for me and always been pleased.

sstamand 01-09-2019 09:51 AM
KSArms is only doing work on their own builds.

Deezel 01-09-2019 10:08 AM
Blue Chip will do a good job for you, if that's where you take it.
I can't comment on pricing or turn around time but I have personally seen his work and it's top notch.

sstamand 01-09-2019 10:15 AM
Blue Chip Precision responded and the prices are quite reasonable in my opinion. $140 for spiral bolt, $140 straight barrel, $175 spiral barrel, plus discount if multiple work performed. Located in Edmonton.

Anyone else have experience using them? Picks of his work on Facebook look great but limited.

Cement Bench 01-09-2019 10:42 AM
actually he is south west of Leduc but easy to find just get a timeline from him

Full Curl Earl 01-09-2019 10:48 AM
Cost
 
CNC milling machines are not cheap, nor is Carbide tooling,
Machinist salaries, commercial leases etc.
When we live in a time where the dealerships are charging $200 an hr, to put eyes on your truck, $250 for non production custom machining seems fair to me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sstamand (Post 3907548)
Any suggestions for gunsmiths capable of bolt and barrel fluting? Coralanes is pretty expensive and US options like Kampfeld have issues shipping gun parts back to Canada. There must be someone reputable out there that can spiral flute a bolt for a reasonable price. $250 for a bolt does not seem reasonable to me.

Nova316 01-09-2019 11:04 AM
KSarms does this work
I know insite does as well but they are pretty backed up

I have my bushings for my dies done by Blue Chip and also seen some of his previous work in person, it looks quite good. He is also super friendly to talk to

sstamand 01-09-2019 11:56 AM
[QUOTE=Full Curl Earl;3908026]CNC milling machines are not cheap, nor is Carbide tooling,
Machinist salaries, commercial leases etc.
When we live in a time where the dealerships are charging $200 an hr, to put eyes on your truck, $250 for non production custom machining seems fair to me.


You must drive a Porsche cause I don’t pay anywhere near $200 an hour for a service mechanic. Anyways to each their own. Blue chip is almost half, I could literally ship it to the US both ways and still have money left over. CNC’s are expensive but do the work in a fraction of the time and after the first one, it’s plug and play.

sstamand 01-09-2019 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Cement Bench (Post 3908020)
actually he is south west of Leduc but easy to find just get a timeline from him
Ahh yes. His message says just south of Edmonton...I quickly read it as south Edmonton.

sstamand 01-09-2019 11:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deezel (Post 3907985)
Blue Chip will do a good job for you, if that's where you take it.
I can't comment on pricing or turn around time but I have personally seen his work and it's top notch.
Thank you for taking the time to respond.

sstamand 01-09-2019 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMX (Post 3907877)
Yes CORLANES farms it out and they’ll lie to you about it to. I sent a gun up to them quoted a few months turn around 10 months later the barrel was ok the bolt handle looked horrible never did get the bolt sleeve finished. They tried stringing me along but some angry emails and phone calls every day the manager finally admitted they lost my bolt parts. Only send someone you hate there I should have called the better business bureau and lodged a complaint with the prof I had on them.
WORST GUN SHOP EVER!!!
Probably why the are more expensive then other options...have to add their 30%?

Jayhad 01-09-2019 12:42 PM
how much weight is going to be pulled out when you flute the barrel and bolt?
I've got an 8lb barrel I'd like to get a little lighter.... perhaps proof research is the way to go.

Nova316 01-09-2019 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayhad (Post 3908113)
how much weight is going to be pulled out when you flute the barrel and bolt?
I've got an 8lb barrel I'd like to get a little lighter.... perhaps proof research is the way to go.
I was going to flute my Sendero profile barrel and KS arms estimated it'd save about 1/2# and not much on the bolt.

Proof research or Hardy carbon barrels if you want to really take weight down.

Full Curl Earl 01-10-2019 01:40 AM
Each there own?
 
[QUOTE=sstamand;3908085]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl (Post 3908026)
CNC milling machines are not cheap, nor is Carbide tooling,
Machinist salaries, commercial leases etc.
When we live in a time where the dealerships are charging $200 an hr, to put eyes on your truck, $250 for non production custom machining seems fair to me.

Yeah, 2014 Dodge ram Targa. In the North $200 is considered a cheaper rate. If ya keep nickel and dimeing Gunsmith shops there will be none. Have you noticed every shop is now a semi-production shop and has signature rifles they pump out? It will soon be impossible to have a spring made or a chamber cleaned up.
Ah well, save some dough here at home and ship it to the US then.

You must drive a Porsche cause I don’t pay anywhere near $200 an hour for a service mechanic. Anyways to each their own. Blue chip is almost half, I could literally ship it to the US both ways and still have money left over. CNC’s are expensive but do the work in a fraction of the time and after the first one, it’s plug and play.

waldedw 01-10-2019 07:03 AM
Harley Green at Insite arms in Lloydminster

wbshunt 01-10-2019 07:19 AM
Bolt flute and barrel thread/ muzzle brake
 
I just had KS arms flute my bolt, thread my barrel for a muzzle break and made me a break for my 7mm tikka superlite. Price was around 260-280 for the break and machine work. I am pleased with the work.

Full Curl Earl 01-11-2019 09:30 AM
Deal
 
Thats is an unbeatable deal if the work is good!

andy1 01-12-2019 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMX (Post 3907877)
Yes CORLANES farms it out and they’ll lie to you about it to. I sent a gun up to them quoted a few months turn around 10 months later the barrel was ok the bolt handle looked horrible never did get the bolt sleeve finished. They tried stringing me along but some angry emails and phone calls every day the manager finally admitted they lost my bolt parts. Only send someone you hate there I should have called the better business bureau and lodged a complaint with the prof I had on them.
WORST GUN SHOP EVER!!!
Agreed x2. Did a bolt. Milled through it to the interior bore. Nice hole. No qc. Never again.


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