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Fishmaster 01-24-2014 08:56 PM

oil leaking into cold lake
 
Have a look at this, apparently 1.8 million liters of oil has leaked into cold lake.
Have a read for yourself
http://m.vice.com/en_ca/read/oil-has...-one-knows-why

Dave

DiabeticKripple 01-24-2014 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishmaster (Post 2297285)
Have a look at this, apparently 1.8 million liters of oil has leaked into cold lake.
Have a read for yourself
http://m.vice.com/en_ca/read/oil-has...-one-knows-why

Dave

It hasn't leaked into cold lake, just into a smaller lake near cold lake.

They pressurized their steam to high and broke the cap rock so the path of least resistance is upwards. Bad bad situation and nearly impossible to fix.

Mike_W 01-24-2014 09:10 PM

Not into cold lake but near cold lake in various areas.
Fracing to the surface?

Fishmaster 01-24-2014 09:21 PM

Ahhh okay okay makes sense, sorry haha

DiabeticKripple 01-24-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike_W (Post 2297301)
Not into cold lake but near cold lake in various areas.
Fracing to the surface?

Not fracking, but similar. Unintentionally broke the cap rock

TylerThomson 01-25-2014 09:54 AM

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam...avity_drainage

That's what they are doing I'm that area and it had been done safely by lots of other companies. I'm not sure what caused the leak and won't guess but whatever happened it's definitely bad news. Hope they get it fixed soon.

Teamprotz 01-25-2014 02:20 PM

Did some work on a well yesterday , stuff happening that should not be happening !

Kauna 01-25-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Teamprotz (Post 2297934)
Did some work on a well yesterday , stuff happening that should not be happening !

sounds like trouble ..maybe we should slow down ..just sayin

Kauna 01-25-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple (Post 2297299)
It hasn't leaked into cold lake, just into a smaller lake near cold lake.
They pressurized their steam to high and broke the cap rock so the path of least resistance is upwards. Bad bad situation and nearly impossible to fix.

that's a relief...

tight line 01-25-2014 06:33 PM

Yes its true, there is oil leaking into Cold Lake.. Out of all the FAT Lake Trout... Being serious, CNRL over injected steam in a SAGD field which over pressurized the Formation causing oil to come to surface( very shallow Formation there.. 350-400m TVD) it flowed into a small non fish bearing lake. CNRL has( by Order) drained the lake as part of the clean up, and supposedly will refill it this spring, as it was home for alot of waterfowl. Very bad situation... And Thankfully it did not afect Cold Lake Directly. The Oilfield activity is not located in proximity to Cold Lake.

hal53 01-25-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tight line (Post 2298242)
Yes its true, there is oil leaking into Cold Lake.. Out of all the FAT Lake Trout... Being serious, CNRL over injected steam in a SAGD field which over pressurized the Formation causing oil to come to surface( very shallow Formation there.. 350-400m TVD) it flowed into a small non fish bearing lake. CNRL has( by Order) drained the lake as part of the clean up, and supposedly will refill it this spring, as it was home for alot of waterfowl. Very bad situation... And Thankfully it did not afect Cold Lake Directly. The Oilfield activity is not located in proximity to Cold Lake.

there will be a couple Geologists and production foremen polishing up there CV's I am thinking....unacceptable...

CanuckShooter 01-25-2014 06:42 PM

Don't worry about it, don't you all drive cars and have computers?? :thinking-006:

hal53 01-25-2014 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CanuckShooter (Post 2298262)
Don't worry about it, don't you all drive cars and have computers?? :thinking-006:

how many acres of habitat did your sawmill butcher today?????

CanuckShooter 01-25-2014 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hal53 (Post 2298272)
how many acres of habitat did your sawmill butcher today?????


I don't have a sawmill, don't own any shares in one either.

Although everyone knows you have to be a big hypocrite to criticize anything big oil does...oil makes the world go around, so big deal they filled up a little pond with a natural product.

hal53 01-25-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CanuckShooter (Post 2298277)
I don't have a sawmill, don't own any shares in one either.

Although everyone knows you have to be a big hypocrite to criticize anything big oil does...oil makes the world go around, so big deal they filled up a little pond with a natural product.

didn't condone it, some heads should roll as they didn't follow rules and regulations...doesn't take a brain surgeon to calculate the frac gradient of the cap rock....

Reddin 01-25-2014 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hal53 (Post 2298272)
how many acres of habitat did your sawmill butcher today?????

how many acres of habitat did your sawmill butcher today?

hal53 01-25-2014 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Reddin (Post 2298282)
how many acres of habitat did your sawmill butcher today?

none.....yours???

Reddin 01-25-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hal53 (Post 2298285)
none.....yours???

my point. get your facts straight.

hal53 01-25-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Reddin (Post 2298288)
my point. get your facts straight.

oh....uh.....okay, thanks!:thinking-006:

Reddin 01-25-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hal53 (Post 2298290)
oh....uh.....okay, thanks!:thinking-006:

uhh ... yah ... okay.. you accuse buddy of clear cutting habitat which he has nothing to do with and then rebuttal with heads gotta roll over a physics formula?

hal53 01-25-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Reddin (Post 2298295)
uhh ... yah ... okay.. you accuse buddy of clear cutting habitat which he has nothing to do with and then rebuttal with heads gotta roll over a physics formula?

1) he works at a mill in B.C.
2) he is against any oil activity, pulp mills, saw mills are fine??
3) physics formula?, it is injection pressure 101, some heads better roll, it is BS that happened in this day and age, you know "exactly" what your pressure limitations are and you stay 20% below that....

Reddin 01-25-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hal53 (Post 2298313)
1) you know "exactly" what your pressure limitations are and you stay 20% below that....

I don't know what "exactly" my pressure limitations are, and a yellow warning light should go off at 19%.

hal53 01-25-2014 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Reddin (Post 2298321)
I don't know what "exactly" my pressure limitations are, and a yellow warning light should go off at 19%.

then you should know...instead of waiting for a "yellow" warning light...sheesh!!!!

dale7637 01-25-2014 07:28 PM

Hey Hal,
Can they run back in horizontally above the fractured cap rock and squeeze cement to close the fracture?
How would you think they will deal with it?

hal53 01-25-2014 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dale7637 (Post 2298336)
Hey Hal,
Can they run back in horizontally above the fractured cap rock and squeeze cement to close the fracture?
How would you think they will deal with it?

might be able to from the steam line, not many details divulged, but it will have to be handled....normally the steam line is horizontal above the horizontal production line, so they do have access, could be dicey about the ground water?.....

tight line 01-25-2014 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CanuckShooter (Post 2298262)
Don't worry about it, don't you all drive cars and have computers?? :thinking-006:

Stop yelling!! I do alot of Directional work for CNRL... Calling it a bad situation, and talking about it doesn't put people against it. Its a fact of life... We need Oil!


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