Sheep on a Draw?
I have heard that they are seriously considering putting trophy sheep on a draw, they think that this will help curb the amount of short rams being killed. Has anyone else heard anything similar to this??
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Perhaps a requirement to complete another sheep course would be more success full in curbing the amount of short rams being killed. Putting them on draw won't solve the root problem IMO. |
trophy sheep on draw
i've heard rumours, but i think thats all it is at this point, it would defintely increase the trophy quality of alberta's sheep population, province wide and if all zones went on draw it would give the average joe a higher chance at killing a book ram in a few years, as more zones are open to draw not everyone will be applying for the same few zones that keep producing year after year. at least in theory anywho it would get my vote if it counts for much
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Those rumors are becoming closer to a reality
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i would like to see sheep go to age rather than just size, there would be alot more mature rams, then we could start killing those old broomed rams
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And there arent very many F&W officers that have seen a bighorn in the wild let alone understanding up from down about judging them. They have lost this issue in court due to their lack of experiance in measuring rams.(a person I know just went through this and won, the ram was legal by 3/4 of an inch). SG |
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With a spotting scope!
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I honestly don't think there are enough rams taken by hunters in a season to warrant trophy sheep tags going to a draw (in WMU's where there is currently a general season). Wolves, bears, cougars, and loss of habitat take a far greater toll on the sheep than any hunting pressure could do.
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If you want to stop the shooting of short rams I say increase the penalty! Bigger fines, be unable to hunt bighorn again, etc. SG |
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SG, have you got a number of how many short rams are shot in a year? I can't imagine it's that many but I could be out to lunch. |
If sheep (and all other draws IMO) goes on draw you should have to actually purchase the tag if you get drawn, should be automatic.
Lots of people would suddenly become a sheep hunter once it was on draw. I would think that some areas/zones would get more pressure if put on draw. Before sheep goes on draw how about getting OHV's out of the sheep zones? Seems like a logical first step to me if in fact there is a problem with too many young rams getting killed If someone draws a tag that could potentially take numerous years to get I would think they would be less apt to pass on 5.5yr old/ just legal rams? I am real curious about the number of short rams killed as well. I have never heard it being brought up as a big issue? |
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There arent many atv zones left and there are some people that thats the only way they can go! And with the zones getting more pressure issue all they have to do is put the draw zone specific and control the number of tags in each zone. And there is nothing wrong with the shooting of a 5 1/2 year old ram if thats what they want but if a few more rams survive to reach 8 or 9 alot of guys would wait to shoot an older ram. SG |
Sheep don't need to be on a draw right now. Maybe some areas are having troubles but the majority of them are doing well.
I don't mind if they do put it on draw as long as wait times are not huge. Why not draw for an area and let the tag holder shoot whatever size of ram he wants? |
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I dont think the draw would be very helpful and i really do like hunting sheep each year, but that being said i do agree that there is a need for change, there are too many young rams bing killed. I know one guy thats killed 7 sheep with the biggest going maybe 160. They should limite the number of rams killed in a life time, maybe 3 or 4. This would mostlikly decrease the number of rams killed and improve the trophy quality. This way you can kill your squeaker to start and then kill two or three hogs if you ever see one.
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The cougar sheep kills that ive herd of are from the guy that chased alot of the cats that were collared and he and the biologists figured sheep were high up on the cougars menu. The also think that it may be the cause of the decreased herd at Ram Mountain west of Rocky. That is part of the reason the sheep foundation helped fund the collaring. There had to be so many cats collared in sheep country so the affects of cats on the sheep population will be better known. SG |
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How will this help in the 80%+ of bighorn areas that are already closed to OHV. A sheep hunter is a sheep hunter no matter if he walks, rides horses, or uses an OHV. Everyone has just as much right to be out there as the next guy! |
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I'm wondering what the outcome will be for the F&W officer? Likely.... ZIP!:mad: meanwhile, the poor bugger who has been accused of shooting an illiegal ramm has to go through all that crap.:mad: Cat |
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If age were the rule how old would the rams need to be?
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