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nimrod 06-20-2019 01:00 PM

Y2Y Bad for Alberta Hunters
 
I was watching a youtube video on Willmore, as the video past the middle at 30:32 a Jason Fisher was talking about the willmore, when the words of y2y came out, I got a bad feeling, did a goggle search, and this is what I found, Y2y funds his operation, in part, why do these people trash Alberta when they can.

http://www.jasontfisher.ca

tonnage 06-20-2019 02:25 PM

It's part of their MO. No use for Y2Y at all. If they had their way, there would be a buffer zone around the Rockies that no humans would be able to enter.

Pekan 06-20-2019 04:04 PM

here's a link to the Y2Y stance on hunting, fishing, trapping:
https://y2y.net/about-us/policies/y2...fishing-policy

Doesn't sound too threatening to me.

MooseRiverTrapper 06-20-2019 04:12 PM

Y2Y is the devil. Educate yourself

boah 06-20-2019 04:12 PM

The Y2Y statement equals a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Albertadiver 06-20-2019 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper (Post 3991480)
Y2Y is the devil. Educate yourself

That's a BIG 10-4

Puma 06-20-2019 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper (Post 3991480)
Y2Y is the devil. Educate yourself

Alberta Backcountry Hunters and Anglers is also an arm, ( or tentacle) funded by Y2Y.

crazy_davey 06-20-2019 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pekan (Post 3991476)
here's a link to the Y2Y stance on hunting, fishing, trapping:
https://y2y.net/about-us/policies/y2...fishing-policy

Doesn't sound too threatening to me.

You need to pull your head out of the sand and do some REAL research.

It’s really sad what some hunters will believe...

BuckCuller 06-20-2019 05:32 PM

Well funded ECO TERRORISTS!
 
Every time I say that acronym Y2Y I have to spit. PAATTOOY!
My mouth just feels so dirty.

Sooner 06-20-2019 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy_davey (Post 3991494)
You need to pull your head out of the sand and do some REAL research.

It’s really sad what some hunters will believe...

Agree

Grizzly Adams 06-20-2019 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pekan (Post 3991476)
here's a link to the Y2Y stance on hunting, fishing, trapping:
https://y2y.net/about-us/policies/y2...fishing-policy

Doesn't sound too threatening to me.

One name. Kevin Van Tighem.

Grizz

Okotokian 06-20-2019 06:06 PM

Is there a group that supports hunting and fishing but is seriously concerned about protection of the backcountry environment?? I'm over 60 and still good with having to walk into some areas and carry or drag out what I harvest (and I'll be good with it when I'm to old to do it). Not trying to be cranky, just asking if there is such a body.

Joe Black 06-20-2019 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pekan (Post 3991476)
here's a link to the Y2Y stance on hunting, fishing, trapping:
https://y2y.net/about-us/policies/y2...fishing-policy

Doesn't sound too threatening to me.


Not threatening, but definite agenda based.

First point made. They believe fishing and hunting is your right. FOR ABORIGINAL PEOPLE.

White Anglo Saxons be damned.

They do not want anybody(except the odd FN) on public land in the mountains. Period.

And yes, BHA has y2y as an affiliated group, or visa versa. Whatever. Both are eletist organizations.

FishOutOfWater 06-20-2019 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pekan (Post 3991476)
here's a link to the Y2Y stance on hunting, fishing, trapping:
https://y2y.net/about-us/policies/y2...fishing-policy

Doesn't sound too threatening to me.

That reads like a lawyer from Trudeau's office wrote it... Their very first "recognition",

"Hunting is an Indigenous right".

Last thing they "recognize" -

"Hunting MAY be an appropriate means to help maintain or manage fish and wildlife population health.

And immediately following that, they start in with the whole "Energy Policy" and Climate Change hogwash...

I hope you were being cheeky when you said they "don't sound threatening to me".

:scared:

SnipeHunter 06-20-2019 06:39 PM

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Koschenk 06-20-2019 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puma (Post 3991487)
Alberta Backcountry Hunters and Anglers is also an arm, ( or tentacle) funded by Y2Y.

That is simply not true. I'd encourage you to meet with some of the folks involved in the organization.

boah 06-20-2019 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puma (Post 3991487)
Alberta Backcountry Hunters and Anglers is also an arm, ( or tentacle) funded by Y2Y.

I don't know if they are funded, but they certainly are on the same team.

Koschenk 06-20-2019 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boah (Post 3991566)
I don't know if they are funded, but they certainly are on the same team.

They will work together on issues that agree with the platforms of each, and I can't say I necessarily care for that policy. However this idea that BHA are some kind of undercover anti hunting organization is so deeply misguided.

As far as funding, I've seen the numbers. There's no secret backdoor money funneling. BHA is fully self sufficient.

sns2 06-20-2019 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams (Post 3991516)
One name. Kevin Van Tighem.

Grizz

I have personally banned him at least 5x. Likely more. One wonders why he wants to peddle his poison on this forum so badly. Wolf.

Puma 06-20-2019 09:39 PM

Funding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koschenk (Post 3991547)
That is simply not true. I'd encourage you to meet with some of the folks involved in the organization.

https://www.activistfacts.com/organi...s-and-anglers/

https://scimontana.com/important-mes...glers-funding/

http://www.americanlandscouncil.org/...r_radical_side

Tides Foundation, Wilburforce Foundation, Y2Y, Peta, all peas from the same pod.

crazy_davey 06-20-2019 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koschenk (Post 3991572)
They will work together on issues that agree with the platforms of each

That right there is enough for myself and many others to steer completely clear of BHA.

Hunters and anglers jumping in bed with the enemy...

HunterDave 06-20-2019 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sns2 (Post 3991583)
I have personally banned him at least 5x. Likely more. One wonders why he wants to peddle his poison on this forum so badly. Wolf.

Could be that other nut, Dwight Rodtka too......lol. Both of them like to hang out on the Trapping forum periodically when they just can’t help themselves from commenting on something. :sHa_sarcasticlol:

Y2Y would like to create a big zoo from Yellowstone to Yukon. BHA would like the same with a few stipulations for outdoorsmen to make them sound legit. The end game is the same for both orgs.

boah 06-20-2019 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sns2 (Post 3991583)
I have personally banned him at least 5x. Likely more. One wonders why he wants to peddle his poison on this forum so badly. Wolf.

Another member on here that is a bha believer is Don Meredith

ram crazy 06-20-2019 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams (Post 3991516)
One name. Kevin Van Tighem.

Grizz

Wasn't he a biologists here in Alberta?

ram crazy 06-20-2019 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puma (Post 3991487)
Alberta Backcountry Hunters and Anglers is also an arm, ( or tentacle) funded by Y2Y.

Funny thing is there are a lot on this forum that are followers of this group.

HunterDave 06-20-2019 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ram crazy (Post 3991630)
Wasn't he a biologists here in Alberta?

I don’t think so, but that bunch like to pass themselves off that way. I’m pretty sure that he was a bureaucrat at a national park.......maybe Banff?

HunterDave 06-20-2019 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boah (Post 3991628)
Another member on here that is a bha believer is Don Meredith

Yup, pretty sure Y2Y as well. I remember a thread years ago that Rob distanced himself and his magazine from Don’s comments on here. Rob actually posted a disclaimer stating that Don’s views were not representative of him or his magazine.

crazy_davey 06-20-2019 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterDave (Post 3991634)
I don’t think so, but that bunch like to pass themselves off that way. I’m pretty sure that he was a bureaucrat at a national park.......maybe Banff?

Correct, he was the Superintendent of Banff national park.

Google him, read some of his articles. Maybe see what his latest BS is on wolf hunting. He also had lots to say on banning grizzly hunting... He calls himself a hunter when it fits his narrative.

And he was listed as a part of the BHA board of directors as a consultant if I remember correctly. I see they have removed that now.

crazy_davey 06-20-2019 11:32 PM

Surprised old And Von Busse (AVB3) hasn’t chimed in under a new username...

crazy_davey 06-20-2019 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ram crazy (Post 3991631)
Funny thing is there are a lot on this forum that are followers of this group.

Exactly. And they are dumb enough to believe Y2Y isn’t anti hunting. Y2Y won’t be happy until our west country is closed off to human activity. You are a fool if you believe otherwise...


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