If it is not racial discrimination, then I don't know what "racism" means.
 

Top Canadian lenders plan to fill 3.5% of senior roles with Black employees

https://ca.reuters.com/article/busin.../idCAKBN24B35G

remember the days when people actually had to earn a position in a company ?

Do we have that many qualified black People and what about all other races ? I've always found Chinese are represented way out of proportion. Could it be they get an education and work hard ?

Grizz

Yup

2.5% of the population is black, that means they’re going over that amount and discriminating against all the others.

It depends what means "black" and when black stop being black - 100%, 50%, 25%? In my opinion, ANY mention of skin colour or shape of eyes is racism, when it used to sort out people.

It's not about racial equality anymore, though that is what some firms and most public institutions want you to believe. Without an obvious display of virtue many companies seem to think they will fall behind the competition in their customer's view. Of course, it's about money. What isn't?
The 3.5% is a carefully constructed projection based on demographics and sales analysis.

Society going downhill really fast
 

Get ready for the new normal ...:rolleye2:

What they are 'actually' (no so cryptically) saying is:
"Be racist, stop hiring so many whites"

Citation for 2.5%?

I wonder why they are not establishing hiring targets for other "visible minorities".

What about "audible minorities"? They should be represented equally as well.

There does seem to be some debate about this (https://rrj.ca/the-audible-minorities). However, it seems to me that this would be impractical. Besides, the fact that we have two official languages should be enough for most businesses.

The question of Indigenous language use is too complex, in my opinion, for businesses to address.

It is called affirmative action and it hasn't worked anywhere yet - large corporations and even the military. When you stop hiring the talent and start hiring the physical characteristics then you should be running a modelling agency

Furthermore, the society which accepts this approach is on on its way to fascism.

Or communism. :thinking-006:

Remember the days when the most qualified for the position were hired?

Good friend works for the AER downtown Calgary. Caucasian males are very rarely hired. :thinking-006:

I have not been able to find evidence one way or the other for the success or failure of affirmative action hiring. Please provide some references. From anecdotal evidence, I had thought that the somewhat forced integration of the US military had worked fairly well. I'd like to settle this in my own mind one way or the other.

The only "affirmative action" programs I have any personal acquaintance with are the various Teacher Education Programs that have been offered through the University of Saskatchewan for Indigenous students. These have been successful.

What solutions do you suggest instead of "affirmative action" hiring?

Thanks for your anticipated responses.

Not all attempts to fix the inequality are wrong.
 

On the other hand- if the talent has been unfairly denied promotion due to physical characteristics, implementing a plan to address the issue and shake up the "old white guys club" may be the only way to correct the demographic disparity.
Ultimately, the customer experience and the corporations bottom line will prove or disprove this decision...just like any other senior position promotion.

Communism it is actually opposite to fascism in terms of social structure and ethnic or race discrimination.

I realize that, although Donald Trump does not. I just wanted to jump in with all the possibilities of political extremism that are popular among those who cry wolf these days. :)

However, ethnic or racial discrimination seem not to disappear in communist states.

White people need a word they can call each other, that no other race is allowed to say. But it has to be kind of badass and cool.:sSig_cool2:

I just did a (little) research. Apparently, Trump is aware of Jurgen Habermas and his first use of the term "left-wing fascism". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_fascism)

So Trump is correct and I'm wrong. Not the first time, of course.

I'm always learning interesting things from following AO.

I kinda miss "Honkey" and we could add "Karen" for the wimmin:thinking-006:

I am not going to start a global search. If you want it - go for it.

I do know that in the Canadian Military (not American) that a lot of people got promoted simply because they were French (not on their merit). We had a lot of great guys who were french but they weren't the ones to get the promotion (before you ask... they weren't in the right position at the right time - the powers to be wanted someone at this rank, at this base right now).

Solutions I would suggest is promotion on merit and desire to be promoted. That was another problem in the military... A tech was a miracle worker in his trade so as soon as he reached sergeant they took away his tool box and gave him a desk. Put him/her in a position and place they didn't want to be and had no skill at, so obviously they did not perform as expected.

Another example was in the pilot trade. I knew a lot of drivers who just loved to fly that platform and didn't want to have anything to do with all the politics and administrative BS that comes with a promotion. I have known some great pilots who got out because of it.

Enough said

Racism only really "matters" when the shoe is on the other foot and it's your turn to be the victim.

A good clip (comedy skit) that drives the point home .... food for thought here (language warning)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q5ctljPg20

I'm not the one suggesting that "affirmative action" doesn't work. A quick search shows lots of opinions but few facts. I was hoping that someone who doesn't think it works had something more to add.

I think promotion on the basis of first language is very political and relatively Canadian.

Your original post referred to physical characteristics so I was thinking of problems related to ethnicity, colour and the like. Not language.

Promotion on merit sounds fine except a good case can be made that visible minorities do not have equal opportunities to develop their gifts so as to be recognized. As I said in the other post, the TEP's did a good job getting Indigenous teachers where they were needed.

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Days like these make me appreciate being neither black nor white.:bad_boys_20:

Not sure if you realize but racism and racial discrimination have a different definition, you maybe should google that stuff

I will never understand why some feel the best way to combat racism is to give benefits to people for being born a certain race.

But hey common sense seems to have died long ago