Whats in a name? Pickerel vs Pickel vs Walleye vs Pike?!?
Hope you all can shed some light on this:
I've caught and know how Walleye and Northern Pikes look like... Friends have told me they have caught pickel/pickle (sp?) and that it is a totally different species than Walleyes and Pikes. Gf's mom showed me a fish and claimed it is a pickel. Which is definitely a walleye. I've also seen websites talking about pickerels and that is part of the pike family. People do refer to Pikes as 'slew sharks, hammer handles, and pickerels'. The website also mentioned people often mistakenly called walleyes as pickerels as well. :angry3: Please help and shed some light! What are pickerels and pickels? Are they one in the same?!? Are walleyes really pickels?!? I tried google search and image search but couldn't find much help. |
No Walleye are not Pickeral's...........lots of guys refer to them as that though same as Jack for Northern Pike. A Pikeral actually looks a lot like a Northern Pike.
It's Walleye & Northern Pike, ignore any other names you hear. |
Here is some Info on Pickeral...
They have same shape as Northern Pike,..But much smaller. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_pickerel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_pickerel |
From what i've seen. Most people who use the word "Pickerel" are from the east some where. And I usually slap them. There are NO Pickerel in Alberta. They have Pickerel in Sask. and further east. But NONE in Alberta. Here's a pic I did for all my "Eastner" friends.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...4_845317_n.jpg |
any pickerels/pickels in AB?
Thanks very much guys! Sure looks like pikes!
One thing I forgot to mention too is studying the 2009 and 2010 regulations there's this 2-side page (middle of the book) showing all the sport fish in AB. I couldn't find these 'pickerels' or 'pickels' at all in it... do they exist in AB waters naturally? |
Here is Walleye and Northern Pike for comparison of all of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walleye http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_pike |
Ohhh thanks very much for the post, fishforlife! Just saw it after I post my further reply.
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Pickeral are memebrs of the pike family, walleye are
members of the perch family - simple like dat:) Many refer to the walleye as a pickeral, but it is a slang term, same as walleyed perch, pike-perch, white tail, etc. Cat |
Great! Thanks very much everyone!
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pickeral are people refering to WALLEYE(refering incorrectly) pike are pike pickeral in reality stands for CHAIN PICKERAL We dont have ANY chain pickeral in AB,Sask,MB, I think Ontario has some. Not sure where youve heard pickel, but a pickle is shown in the picture below. http://thesportboys.files.wordpress..../03/pickle.jpg :sHa_sarcasticlol: |
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They,...Pickeral,... are an eastern Fish mostly the eastern States.... There are some Chain Pickeral in Quebec, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick.... |
As mentioned, its for some reason an old timer/saskatchewan thing. Pickeral = walleye and jack = northern pike when you hear that. Although both terms are technically wrong.
Ex: if you were in sk locals would refer to them there fish in dat lake as pickeral and jack. Who knows why. |
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ask yer buddies if they know the difference between jacks and pike, then tell them pickeral look the same as pike and sit back and enjoy the confusion...... :thinking-006:
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The terms Jack and Pickerl were user in Manitoba too when I was young, I remember oldtimers looking at me sidways when I called them walleye's
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This is something that gets me tearing my hair out.
We have guests from Ontario right now, and the gentleman and I spent a good half hour talking about this. Apparently lots of folks in Ontario refer to walleye as pickeral as well (though he isn't one of them, and it annoys him too). As an aside, he couldn't believe how few species of game fish we have in Alberta. My jaw dropped when he started rattling off all of the different species they have in Ontario. |
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More confusion. The pickel in the picture is actually a cucumber and only a pickel when it is softened and lightend by a few months in a jar with vinegar and salt. You could also throw all these fish in the jar and end up up with pickeled pike, pickled pickeral, etc. |
A lot of those old timers were german it very well may have been pickels they were talking about. The walleyes they took home were about the right size (thank god for slot limits and harsh fines) :)
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I grew up in Northern Ontario and the only people who called a walleye a walleye were American.(we always said pickerel).I do find it funny though that at Safeway and Costco in Calgary they refer to Walleye fillets as Pickerel fillets.
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Sushi there are also a lot of people who call mountain whitefish grayling, they look similar except the dorsal fin, but they are different fish. used to drive me crazy too. now Im well past crazy so I dont care anymore :bad_boys_20:
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Perchy piker picked a pack of pickled Pickeral Pectorals
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From what I understand the name pickeral for waleye originated in Ontario, but I could be wrong. We have them back in NS unfortianatly. Here's a picture of some chain pickeral that a buddy of mine took out of a lake in Cape Breton. They don't grow very big, the record for NS is around 7Lb.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_jfAizm9Cbms/TD...Picture488.jpg |
Ahh thanks very much everyone! Great pics illustrating the different species too. Now I can stand proudly knowing the difference between them all.
Really have no idea that there's so much history behind these names. I'm glad I posted and asked this question. Thanks for all the insightful responses. Hunter & Duck: Thanks for the light humor as well ;) |
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ya there is chain pickeral in the florida lakes also and they look the same as the species in eastern canada
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I don't understand why people get all worked up about this
If someone wants to call a pike a jack let them call it a jack If they wanna call a walleye a pickerel let them call them a pickerel Aslong as you know what they're talking about such I'm sure you All do that's what counts.. That's just like someone calling me nick An me being like MY NAME ISNT NICK It's Nicholas |
so i guess im guilty i remember as a kid fishing and catching what dad thought were pickerel now i know but what about sauger vs wallaye is there a big diffrence in appearence i guess i should know but i always catch and release
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Here's a little diagram for Sauger/Walleye:
http://www.iowadnr.gov/fish/iafish/images/differnt.gif |
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