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husky hunter 01-08-2019 08:57 AM

Wolf Poisoning
 
Has anyone heard anything about Wolf poisoning in west central Alberta. We have been out lots in Whitecourt, Grande Cache, Hinton, and Edson area and the sign of anything that would eat meat is down big time. We have also seen baits that were obviously dropped by helicopter.

MooseRiverTrapper 01-08-2019 09:05 AM

That’s good to hear. I thought the NDP cut the budget on that.

Salavee 01-08-2019 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by husky hunter (Post 3907180)
Has anyone heard anything about Wolf poisoning in west central Alberta. We have been out lots in Whitecourt, Grande Cache, Hinton, and Edson area and the sign of anything that would eat meat is down big time. We have also seen baits that were obviously dropped by helicopter.

If that's the case, all I can say is .. It's about time !

Swamp hunter 01-08-2019 09:51 AM

I sure hope thats true

husky hunter 01-08-2019 09:56 AM

Great if it's only Wolves but what about the dozens of other animals....

bluetick 01-08-2019 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by husky hunter (Post 3907228)
Great if it's only Wolves but what about the dozens of other animals....

small price to pay to save thousands of ungulates and preserve wildlife and hunting areas.

Coiloil37 01-08-2019 10:57 AM

I hope they are. It would be about 15 years to late but like they say, better late then pregnant.

bezzola 01-08-2019 02:13 PM

The wolf numbers are far from down in the whitecourt area.
I have wolves on every trail cam i have out

yukon254 01-08-2019 03:59 PM

Yukon fish/game needs to take lessons from you Albertans!

Scopithorne 01-08-2019 05:52 PM

I'm not here to try and blast anyone but Whether it is or isn't going on this is a stupid thing to be discussing on a open forum. All it takes is one person to Google wolf posining for this thread to show up. Mods this thread should be deleted

Salavee 01-08-2019 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scopithorne (Post 3907556)
I'm not here to try and blast anyone but Whether it is or isn't going on this is a stupid thing to be discussing on a open forum. All it takes is one person to Google wolf posining for this thread to show up. Mods this thread should be deleted

Don't sweat it. Apparently it's already been done. Kind of like you want to hide the fact that their doing the right thing.

trigger7mm 01-08-2019 06:21 PM

Wolf poisoning
 
It’s great that they are taking out a lot of the wolves to help even out the balance. The only thing that bothers me is all the other animals that die too. I read somewhere of a guy that found a bait that had been poisoned. He said that he found 1 dead wolf, 3 dead grizzlies, and a ton of dead birds. It said that the ground around the area was absolutely littered with dead chickadees. There’s no doubt that there are too many wolves out there, but couldn’t a bounty for trappers to remove some help the problem. I guess you can’t have the best of both worlds.

Salavee 01-08-2019 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by trigger7mm (Post 3907588)
It’s great that they are taking out a lot of the wolves to help even out the balance. The only thing that bothers me is all the other animals that die too. I read somewhere of a guy that found a bait that had been poisoned. He said that he found 1 dead wolf, 3 dead grizzlies, and a ton of dead birds. It said that the ground around the area was absolutely littered with dead chickadees. There’s no doubt that there are too many wolves out there, but couldn’t a bounty for trappers to remove some help the problem. I guess you can’t have the best of both worlds.

It would be great if we could trap them out but we couldn't catch up with the numbers that are currently out there. I was reading about one area that tried it
(somewhere in the US) and they were paying $800.00 per.. split by the County and State .It was pretty successful but very costly.

Jays toyz 01-08-2019 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by trigger7mm (Post 3907588)
It’s great that they are taking out a lot of the wolves to help even out the balance. The only thing that bothers me is all the other animals that die too. I read somewhere of a guy that found a bait that had been poisoned. He said that he found 1 dead wolf, 3 dead grizzlies, and a ton of dead birds. It said that the ground around the area was absolutely littered with dead chickadees. There’s no doubt that there are too many wolves out there, but couldn’t a bounty for trappers to remove some help the problem. I guess you can’t have the best of both worlds.

There is no shortage of magpies, ravens and apparently grizzlies. I am good with this.

270person 01-08-2019 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by trigger7mm (Post 3907588)
The only thing that bothers me is all the other animals that die too. I read somewhere of a guy that found a bait that had been poisoned. He said that he found 1 dead wolf, 3 dead grizzlies, and a ton of dead birds.


Shame about the birds.

Gifted Intuitive 01-08-2019 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by husky hunter (Post 3907180)
Has anyone heard anything about Wolf poisoning in west central Alberta. We have been out lots in Whitecourt, Grande Cache, Hinton, and Edson area and the sign of anything that would eat meat is down big time. We have also seen baits that were obviously dropped by helicopter.

The sign of anything eating meat is down maybe because of mice. There seems to be thousands of mice. While walking hundreds of miles hunting and hiking and travelling miles on a horse, I am seeing unusually large numbers of mice. I'm also not seeing any deer kills by coyotes.

trigger7mm 01-08-2019 08:43 PM

Wolf poisoning.
 
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Originally Posted by Jays toyz (Post 3907613)
There is no shortage of magpies, ravens and apparently grizzlies. I am good with this.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but you must be joking!

MountainTi 01-08-2019 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jays toyz (Post 3907613)
There is no shortage of magpies, ravens and apparently grizzlies. I am good with this.

:)

Deer Hunter 01-08-2019 09:04 PM

What are they using for poison? Just wondering....

sjr 01-08-2019 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by deer hunter (Post 3907739)
what are they using for poison? Just wondering....

10-80

Jays toyz 01-08-2019 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by trigger7mm (Post 3907713)
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you must be joking!

Which part? My feelings or my assessment there are lots of Ravens and magpies? Or my guess on Bear numbers?

mk63 01-09-2019 09:08 AM

This thread stinks like Fake News

cowmanbob 01-09-2019 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sjr (Post 3907752)
10-80

Isn't 10-80 canine specific?

3blade 01-09-2019 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by husky hunter (Post 3907228)
Great if it's only Wolves but what about the dozens of other animals....

Most of them would have ended up in wolf turds anyway, and there is no shortage of birds.

History and biology have taught us that the only truly effective way to deal with excess wolves is poison. They can out-breed any hunting and most trapping efforts. Though hunting and trapping does help, there needs to be more done to eleminate the wolf infestation.

Also you are full of crap, or trolling, or an anti-hunter. There is no shortage of wolf sign around Edson.

Full Curl Earl 01-09-2019 10:09 AM

US Bounty
 
You sure you heard about a US bounty on wolves for $800? They were only recently delisted, few years now. A bounty of $800 in Alberta might actually help, and you get to keep the fur. The present scam offered to some trappers to place trapping equipment and take photos periodically of a set to recieve payment, wiyhout having trapped a single wolf, needs to end.

QUOTE=Salavee;3907609]It would be great if we could trap them out but we couldn't catch up with the numbers that are currently out there. I was reading about one area that tried it
(somewhere in the US) and they were paying $800.00 per.. split by the County and State .It was pretty successful but very costly.[/QUOTE]

Nordegg2 01-09-2019 10:09 AM

I agree that this should not be a topic of discussion on a open forum.

Full Curl Earl 01-09-2019 10:13 AM

Lol
 
You seen alot of wolves eating Chickadees, ravens and bears have ya?
Dont you know you just have to kill all the moose and the wolves leave!
Poison should have died out with the band in my opinion.

QUOTE=3blade;3907980]Most of them would have ended up in wolf turds anyway, and there is no shortage of birds.

History and biology have taught us that the only truly effective way to deal with excess wolves is poison. They can out-breed any hunting and most trapping efforts. Though hunting and trapping does help, there needs to be more done to eleminate the wolf infestation.

Also you are full of crap, or trolling, or an anti-hunter. There is no shortage of wolf sign around Edson.[/QUOTE]

Grizzly Adams 01-09-2019 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by husky hunter (Post 3907228)
Great if it's only Wolves but what about the dozens of other animals....

It's like using a broom to do what a Q tip should do. Some unexpected side effects like to make an appearance with wide environmental effects. Not a good idea in my mind.
Grizz

NCC 01-09-2019 07:23 PM

I don’t believe it’s happening anywhere outside of the caribou areas but I hope it is. After seeing the video evidence of one gbear killing 44 caribou and moose calves in 25 days, and witnessing ravens pull the guts out of my lambs and knock eyes out of my calves, I hope they get a few of them too. They should be able to drop the poison in open areas to avoid killing the marten, fishers and wolverines.

One of my buddies showed me a video he took from a chopper of four wolves killing a cow and calf moose north of Ft St. John just before Christmas. The cow was likely bred, so that’s three moose out of the ecosystem in 30 minutes. Imagine how many moose calves it takes to keep a pack of ten or fifteen wolves going.

Deer Hunter 01-09-2019 07:28 PM

Wmu 406 has been cleaned out of game this past year due to wolves. We had multiple sightings and found many kills in November. Never have I seen it this bad. Packs of 6-8 plus multiple pairs.


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