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calgarychef 05-03-2017 05:24 PM

Anyone drawing sheep in 410'?
 
I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on a sheep tag in 410 this fall, I've got enough points. Anyone else in the same boat who would like to partner up.? If I decide to go I'll probably take a month off work, the wife will kill me but it's worth it ;)

Coiloil37 05-03-2017 06:23 PM

Probably not the dream tag your pulling but I'm going to pull a ewe tag in 410 this year. Good luck on the ram, I'm still a few years from pulling that one.

calgarychef 05-03-2017 10:51 PM

My thoughts were to pull the ewe tag this year and trophy next year. I'd like to spend time in the zone hunting this year and learn some stuff before trying for the big boy. I'll probably spend three weeks this year camping, chasing ewes and white tails in the rut.

Reddog 05-19-2017 05:00 PM

You hunting that with trad chef?

calgarychef 05-19-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Reddog (Post 3544035)
You hunting that with trad chef?


Yup!

Lefty-Canuck 05-19-2017 07:58 PM

I might pull my 410 as well.

LC

calgarychef 05-19-2017 09:05 PM

I've got a plan, it's starting to solidify...sure could use a good partner. Someone who's experienced, a hard working hunter, safe, someone who can think for themselves and who has well worn boots.

Ultimate Predator 05-19-2017 10:04 PM

Think its time to pull mine its been a few yrs sinse i arrowed a ram and im not getting any younger!

heretohunt 05-22-2017 11:15 AM

If you are looking for a good partner for that hunt I would recommend lining up three guys that say yes and then still plan on hunting by yourself. Most guys think it's a pretty good idea until they realize that they are going to be backpack hunting in the mountains in the winter time with a bow and arrow. Most lose ambition and fade into the background quickly. LOL its a difficult hunt but very rewarding.
I would say the biggest drawback to that hunt is that the outfitters are very prepared, have been doing it for years, occupy the best spots and can be very competitive(difficult).
Good luck and plan on this being your last opportunity for this tag . They cut the resident tags from 50 to 30 and I don't think that the residents are all that successful.

hunter18 05-26-2017 07:21 AM

410 sheep
 
I'm planning on pulling the tag this year as well.

jrileyw 05-28-2017 08:20 AM

Tags
 
When did the tags get cut from 50 to 30?

heretohunt 05-28-2017 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jrileyw (Post 3549565)
When did the tags get cut from 50 to 30?

I think about 3-4 years ago. Outfitter tags didn't change though. 🤔

Provy68 10-12-2017 08:55 AM

Ram 410
 
So I was drawn and wanting to set up camp, wondering if any of you guys did get your draw?

calgarychef 10-12-2017 09:56 AM

Nope, I was sure I'd get drawn this year but no dice....enjoy your hunt. Be serious about it, it's once in a lifetime pretty much.

Beached Whale 10-29-2017 11:55 PM

So what happens if you occupy an area before the guides get there? You were there first

-JR- 10-30-2017 05:35 AM

410 is a zone i used to bow hunt sheep every year in Nov 30 years ago ,solo!
My sheep days are long gone now.
I used to just hunt along the old hyw 1a
Just seemed like every thing was posted no trespassing last time i was there.
That hyw used to be just linned up with hunters and there spotting scopes back then
Pushing 60 now and my knees and hips are gone just to many hunts.
Anyways ...would love to get a pm on where every one goes.
Has to be more mountains than that one along hyw 1a

elkoholik 10-31-2017 03:44 PM

Following
 
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Originally Posted by Beached Whale (Post 3655062)
So what happens if you occupy an area before the guides get there? You were there first

I have heard some terrible stories of guides up there doing terrible stuff to ones camp. I hope these may be stories and not truth but I have heard it from a few that have hunted up there over the years. By rights there is enough area to respect each others hunts, I am considering to pull my hunt next season so will be following this thread. Good luck and keep us posted if there is any issues with guides and if there is it will be time we shame and oust these disrespectful people, we all need to respect each other and the hunt. I do not care if it is their living and worth big $$$ to them it is all our land to hunt. Lets also please post the positive encounters/experiences so we can have a better insight to what is truly going on up there.

Cheers, Elkoholik

J.B. 10-31-2017 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elkoholik (Post 3656369)
I have heard some terrible stories of guides up there doing terrible stuff to ones camp. I hope these may be stories and not truth but I have heard it from a few that have hunted up there over the years. By rights there is enough area to respect each others hunts, I am considering to pull my hunt next season so will be following this thread. Good luck and keep us posted if there is any issues with guides and if there is it will be time we shame and oust these disrespectful people, we all need to respect each other and the hunt. I do not care if it is their living and worth big $$$ to them it is all our land to hunt. Lets also please post the positive encounters/experiences so we can have a better insight to what is truly going on up there.

Cheers, Elkoholik

Had zero issues with the guide on pigeon last year. Actually had some good conversations with him and his client up there....

Prdtrgttr 11-01-2017 07:10 AM

The issue is...Canmore is already a very difficult area to hunt due to all the zone restrictions, and the 3 main drainages that are best to hunt, Pigeon, Exshaw, and Cougar, all have guides camps at the top of the hill. Tough for AB residents to compete with that.

nube 11-28-2017 09:53 PM

Well I spent the last 9 days hunting with one of the main guides for my 408 sheep tag and the way he treated the other guides not using him was amazing. To me he was more than helpful and basically tried to help them kill a ram. He tried to make sure we all worked together

Arrowhead 11-29-2017 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nube (Post 3678029)
Well I spent the last 9 days hunting with one of the main guides for my 408 sheep tag and the way he treated the other guides not using him was amazing. To me he was more than helpful and basically tried to help them kill a ram. He tried to make sure we all worked together

So how did you do in 408???

nube 11-29-2017 09:44 PM

Killed a 9.5 year old that scored 179.5"
Tough hunt weather wise with the wind

mk63 12-01-2017 04:21 PM

Any residents have any success in 410 this year? Heard of one ram taken on Pigeon mid month and another near the mine, also heard Guinn took two rams in exshaw.

nube 12-03-2017 05:22 PM

Outfitters did well but residents did not. Some legal rams moved in to a few spots on the last few days of the season but there were not a lot of rams moving into areas this year. I bet the big boys just barely started showing up now. We had one real good ram show last day of the season after we were done but other than that chased the same group of legal rams around the whole time.
I would have loved to have seen a bunch of real big hogs running around but it has been slow last 2 years. Either weather or just changing their locations of winter/breeding grounds a big possibly? Who knows!

herc883 12-03-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mk63 (Post 3680035)
Any residents have any success in 410 this year? Heard of one ram taken on Pigeon mid month and another near the mine, also heard Guinn took two rams in exshaw.

I got mine on Pigeon on the 21st. Packed a camp up there and was planning on staying until the end but tagged out on day four. Saw lots of sheep - first and only legal ram I saw and was lucky enough to get him. The next morning we hiked back up where he was when I shot him, trying to find my arrow and flush the rye from the system. There were 4 wolves and 50 ravens on the gut pile and they had it cleaned up - not 18 hours since we had left it. I found my arrow too!

I also went into Exshaw and Cougar earlier and hiked into a couple other holes but because I have horses and could get a camp up Pigeon I decided it would be where I focused the last two weeks. Being the first and last one off the mountain each day (besides the outfitter) gave me a pretty big advantage over all the other residents... especially the guys trying to spot it from their trucks before deciding if they should hike up there.
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calgarychef 12-04-2017 06:14 AM

Well done, it looks like you did your homework well and had a plan.

Were you in a heated tent?

herc883 12-04-2017 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by calgarychef (Post 3681853)
Well done, it looks like you did your homework well and had a plan.

Were you in a heated tent?

Canvas wall tent with a stove.

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mk63 12-04-2017 09:05 AM

Congrats herc883, I got some great footage of that ram from the 19th, PM me if you want me to email you the video. We were the other guys camped in the wall tent lower down off the main trail.

heretohunt 12-04-2017 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by herc883 (Post 3681705)
I got mine on Pigeon on the 21st. Packed a camp up there and was planning on staying until the end but tagged out on day four. Saw lots of sheep - first and only legal ram I saw and was lucky enough to get him. The next morning we hiked back up where he was when I shot him, trying to find my arrow and flush the rye from the system. There were 4 wolves and 50 ravens on the gut pile and they had it cleaned up - not 18 hours since we had left it. I found my arrow too!

I also went into Exshaw and Cougar earlier and hiked into a couple other holes but because I have horses and could get a camp up Pigeon I decided it would be where I focused the last two weeks. Being the first and last one off the mountain each day (besides the outfitter) gave me a pretty big advantage over all the other residents... especially the guys trying to spot it from their trucks before deciding if they should hike up there.
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Congradtulations on a fine ram! This is by far the most difficult hunt in Alberta for residents.

mk63 12-04-2017 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nube (Post 3681563)
Outfitters did well but residents did not. Some legal rams moved in to a few spots on the last few days of the season but there were not a lot of rams moving into areas this year. I bet the big boys just barely started showing up now. We had one real good ram show last day of the season after we were done but other than that chased the same group of legal rams around the whole time.
I would have loved to have seen a bunch of real big hogs running around but it has been slow last 2 years. Either weather or just changing their locations of winter/breeding grounds a big possibly? Who knows!

This was my experience, saw the same resident rams day after day it seemed, had nick names for all of them by the end of the trip. Spent 14 days hunting hard, seen at least a dozen rams that were within an inch, 2 or 3 were right there but we figured if we weren't 100% sure at 40 yards it probably wasn't the right Ram.


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