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WayneChristie 06-24-2013 06:27 PM

Bow trout fishery threatened
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/06...n_3492115.html

Wild&Free 06-24-2013 06:41 PM

Too soon to tell, but the potential is there for sure. Big changes coming to the Bow once the water drops.

fish gunner 06-24-2013 06:44 PM

Pesky scientist types like they know.Alberta trout dont need their book readns.(jk)
I hope everyone actually pays attention when the environment shows us we need to rethink some things. I hope the bow as we know it is not lost to 3-5 mtr walled flood canal. Sigh. Im am however afraid my first statement will ring true. :(

BeeGuy 06-24-2013 07:14 PM

In crisis there is opportunity.

fedfred 06-24-2013 07:27 PM

Does anyone else find it funny that a guy from the flat land, University of Saskatchewan is talking about the Rockies. He's clearly clueless when it come to the resiliency of fish, floods like this happen and fish come back on their own, otherwise we'd have no fish. Evolution works, despite what they may teach in Saskatchewan.

Nothing against Saskatchewan, it's just that... maybe they should have picked someone from Alberta or BC to talk about trout in the mountains.

MtnGiant 06-24-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BeeGuy (Post 2017007)
In crisis there is opportunity.

Is this comment sposed to mean something?
Can you elaborate a little?

The one good thing about the Bow is that there are many tributaries for the fish to seek shelter.

It's the waterways that dont have shelter that will see more mortalities. :(

BeeGuy 06-24-2013 07:41 PM

Which tributaries were you thinking about?

My statement was in reference to the article. Did you read it?

walking buffalo 06-24-2013 07:55 PM

10% truth and 90% dramatic false dogma.

fish gunner 06-24-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fedfred (Post 2017029)
Does anyone else find it funny that a guy from the flat land, University of Saskatchewan is talking about the Rockies. He's clearly clueless when it come to the resiliency of fish, floods like this happen and fish come back on their own, otherwise we'd have no fish. Evolution works, despite what they may teach in Saskatchewan.

Nothing against Saskatchewan, it's just that... maybe they should have picked someone from Alberta or BC to talk about trout in the mountains.

Im not 100% but we could call this the never seen before flood,:sign0161: so how do we know what affect it will have on fish habitat . Im just going to suggest everyones on the same page on this....a blank one.

fish gunner 06-24-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by walking buffalo (Post 2017074)
10% truth and 90% dramatic false dogma.

Please point out a few of the falshoods in the article.

fish gunner 06-24-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MtnGiant (Post 2017042)
Is this comment sposed to mean something?
Can you elaborate a little?

The one good thing about the Bow is that there are many tributaries for the fish to seek shelter.

It's the waterways that dont have shelter that will see more mortalities. :(

Please point out which tributary south of the clearwater river in the south saskatchewan river dranage basin these trout were finding refuge in :snapoutofit:And just for the smart alec yes I know the clearwater drains into the north sask .lol

BeeGuy 06-24-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by walking buffalo (Post 2017074)
10% truth and 90% dramatic false dogma.

Yup

Dogma doesn't necessarily mean a falsehood FG.

fish gunner 06-24-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BeeGuy (Post 2017132)
Yup

Dogma doesn't necessarily mean a falsehood FG.

False dogma ?? Or is that a double negitive lol.

Walleyedude 06-24-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fedfred (Post 2017029)
Does anyone else find it funny that a guy from the flat land, University of Saskatchewan is talking about the Rockies. He's clearly clueless when it come to the resiliency of fish, floods like this happen and fish come back on their own, otherwise we'd have no fish. Evolution works, despite what they may teach in Saskatchewan.

Nothing against Saskatchewan, it's just that... maybe they should have picked someone from Alberta or BC to talk about trout in the mountains.

What difference does it actually make what university the person doing the study attends or teaches at? How do you know where they're from or what their qualifications are? I don't know many professors that were alive during the heyday of Ancient Greece, does that mean their knowledge and research is invalid?

Questioning the conclusions is one thing, but basing it on the fact that it comes from the U of S is just ridiculous.

Speckle55 06-24-2013 08:44 PM

here is his qualifications and its early yet.. but I think he has raised concerns for all the eastern slopes in the future

ps I would take his summation as best science

Food for Thought
David:)

http://www.usask.ca/hydrology/people/Pomeroy_John.php

fish gunner 06-24-2013 08:47 PM

Ok I take back the book readns and insert book rightens. :sHa_sarcasticlol:

cube 06-24-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fedfred (Post 2017029)
Nothing against Saskatchewan, it's just that... maybe they should have picked someone from Alberta or BC to talk about trout in the mountains.

I guess Canmore is too flat land for you... as it says in the article "who spoke from the Alberta mountain community of Canmore, where he works at a field research station"

THERICARDO 06-24-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fedfred (Post 2017029)
Does anyone else find it funny that a guy from the flat land, University of Saskatchewan is talking about the Rockies. He's clearly clueless when it come to the resiliency of fish, floods like this happen and fish come back on their own, otherwise we'd have no fish. Evolution works, despite what they may teach in Saskatchewan.

Nothing against Saskatchewan, it's just that... maybe they should have picked someone from Alberta or BC to talk about trout in the mountains.



Are you serious?? I know he has a huge part in watershed program in Canmore and has done endless studies on rivers( Sask and Alberta)

I find it more funny that you choose to attack his knowledge bc he is professor in Sask... Just made yourself lok more ignorant than anything

BeeGuy 06-24-2013 08:56 PM

Yep

MtnGiant 06-24-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fish gunner (Post 2017088)
Please point out which tributary south of the clearwater river in the south saskatchewan river dranage basin these trout were finding refuge in :snapoutofit:And just for the smart alec yes I know the clearwater drains into the north sask .lol

settle down GuppyGunner

I can only point out the areas I know of here in Calgary.

Must you troll on......maybe you should ask the mods to change your name to TrollGunner.

Smarten up sucka!!!!!

OMG!!!!!....the insulence of people that breath the same air as me :scared:

fish gunner 06-24-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MtnGiant (Post 2017240)
settle down GuppyGunner

I can only point out the areas I know of here in Calgary.

Must you troll on......maybe you should ask the mods to change your name to TrollGunner.

Smarten up sucka!!!!!

OMG!!!!!....the insulence of people that breath the same air as me :scared:

Answer the fookn question. Giant gunner has a nice ring lol.

BeeGuy 06-24-2013 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtnGiant (Post 2017240)
settle down GuppyGunner

I can only point out the areas I know of here in Calgary.

Must you troll on......maybe you should ask the mods to change your name to TrollGunner.

Smarten up sucka!!!!!

OMG!!!!!....the insulence of people that breath the same air as me :scared:

Gongggggggg!

This isn't Stanley cup emotional spillover is it?

MtnGiant 06-24-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fish gunner (Post 2017253)
Answer the fookn question. Giant gunner has a nice ring lol.

Hahahaha.....GiantGunner does have a nice ring....I like it....your welcome :)

MtnGiant 06-24-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BeeGuy (Post 2017259)
Gongggggggg!

This isn't Stanley cup emotional spillover is it?

It could be Bee....I cant tell yet :sHa_sarcasticlol:

MtnGiant 06-24-2013 09:19 PM

Oh btw

What wuz da question?.....Im feeling a lil stunned at da moment :scared:

H380 06-24-2013 09:25 PM

You know,I'm getting a little tired of these 1 in 100 year or never before seen floods that seem to happen every other year .The last big flood they talked about lasted 40 days and nights.Now that caused some change! Sure it is a big flood , sure there will be changes , but there always is change , that's what makes it Alberta .

fish gunner 06-24-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by H380 (Post 2017282)
You know,I'm getting a little tired of these 1 in 100 year or never before seen floods that seem to happen every other year .The last big flood they talked about lasted 40 days and nights.Now that caused some change! Sure it is a big flood , sure there will be changes , but there always is change , that's what makes it Alberta .

Omg thats some fine insight . Lets just say for a moment the bow channel has been widend 50% that reduces fish holding water by a huge margin and increases seasonal temps by a margin that as the book written guy suggests may threaten trout survivability. :bad_boys_20:

fish gunner 06-24-2013 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtnGiant (Post 2017272)
Oh btw

What wuz da question?.....Im feeling a lil stunned at da moment :scared:

Oh did bean town take a kikn . Bahagah west is best.
Ok now please point out the tributary streams feeding the bow you suggest the trout have taken refuge in cause as best I can find some of the bow tributary streams are in worse state than the bow .

H380 06-24-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fish gunner (Post 2017289)
Omg thats some fine insight . Lets just say for a moment the bow channel has been widend 50% that reduces fish holding water by a huge margin and increases seasonal temps by a margin that as the book written guy suggests may threaten trout survivability. :bad_boys_20:

Who knows ... maybe it will be better ? Maybe it will be deeper ? :thinking-006: afterall , sometimes change is a good thing .Time will tell .

fish gunner 06-24-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by H380 (Post 2017293)
Who knows ... maybe it will be better ? Maybe it will be deeper ? :thinking-006: afterall , sometimes change is a good thing .Time will tell .

Ill just go out on a limb and guess the guy that wrote the book on western water sheds ie the guy in the article who also contributed to 37 other leared folks books just might know.


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