pretty nice opportunity we all have there, crossbow changes nothing there, the opportunity will still be there, the world isn't going to race out and flood the roads with slob poaching road hunters, and stop associating poachers with crossbows, as said, easier to road hunt with a compound than a crossbow....and more people will wound with vertical bows than with crossbows....which is a good thing....as said before, educate the facts and what rancher with a sense of reason would not want crossbows out there? a more compentant bow for the general bowhunters that do the majority of wounding
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Would you be that guy that would apologized, or hung his head cause he didn't his part to help? What if your son/daughter ask you Dad what did you do to help preserve Bow Hunting in Alberta??? What you say or do here will echo into eternity, I for one will proudly say I stood up to xbow hoard! |
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Oh well, I'm going to keep practicing every second day with my recurves. |
i only see it as a tool, researched it as a tool, when done i came away 180 degrees from when i went in....its just another bow, kill ratios/effectiveness just like the compounds etc., i can't think of it any other way, my kids will hear it no different, learn about it and make up your own mind will also be in there....whatever change is required to add in a different type of bow is worth it imo
i really don't see how everyone is going to all of a sudden be a killing super star with crossbows.....the guys chasing sheep in 410 are likely hardcore enough to already be killing superstars....its not going to matter what is in their hands at the crunch....argued to death and with the sheep i understand its the finding a legal one thats the hard part....the killing part isn't too bad with them from all i've been told;) so the tool should be even less of a factor, plus i know which i'd rather pack around...not the crossbow thats forsure, harvest data suggests the same thing...99% hunter, 1% tool....this is just a tool that i now say wtf is it doing lumped in with the guns? shouldn't we fix that? and if so what do we gain? what i think we gain is obviously what many of you think is what we lose....thats life oh, and why would we introduce the thing full out? into the sheep seasons/draws even zones etc.? Why not start with the high poplulation ungulates/areas and give it a trial run for awhile, i was even for just throwing it into the bowzones for pilot etc. i can't imagine them being introduced into the 400 zones right off the hop but whatever the major powers at be decide is what they decide |
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don't worry Justin, not one bowhunter i know is with me....still buds with them all the same, lots of warm smiles back and forth when the subject comes up though we try to avoid it most of the time:D
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The world will not end. You may get a handfull of new guys in bow season using a xbow, but as has been mentioned in many threads, the xbow hunter still needs to do everything a bow hunter does to be successful. In other words, success rate will be low. You can share the woods, there's lots out there. |
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I agree Potty! However, we are preaching to guys that obviously don't give a s**t about what the future brings! Its selfish hunters that want to live in the moment and try to cash in on what they think is a possible hunting goldmine! If they can get out for a longer season an stick a few does in the ***** they are happy with that! Besides, whats the worst that can happen for them? Maybe In a few years they close the crossbow season?:huh: They just go, oh well! It was fun while it lasted. It's real bowhunters that are left shaking our heads going. WHAT WHERE/ARE THEY THINKING? |
The fact is SRD has already indicated Mule Deer and Moose will be on a draw in what zones remain open to archery if the crossbow resolution goes forward. They realize there will be a large influx of hunters during the archery season and a draw for these species at least will be implemented.
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Wow that was a hard guess! :rolleye2: Your a xbow/gun hunter. If your so into encouraging different ways of hunting then why have you not gotten into archery??? Can't pull back a bow and hold it steady?? Or just don't want to learn something technical and new? Then again Its much easier to just grab a XGun and call yourself a bowhunter i guess. If this does come into effect i'm sure i'll see you driving around the bowzone chain smoking, drinking coffees and ummmmm...hunting. :rolleye2: Hope your able to, as you say "kill all the deer and leave none for us!" :) |
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I have caught up and no that is not a bow. That pse tac crossbow is waymore than a bow with the specs I read it is so far from a bow.;) i'm just not scared of it for some reason[/QUOTE]me either just scared of the draw reqired to use it in the same season as my compound. |
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Lets take N America as the area. Of the states and provinces where xbows have been allowed during archery season, has there been an increase in poaching? Has the long tradition of archery gone the way of the dodo bird? Have the woods been filled with untrained (define trained?) people? Having someone playing devils advocate is a good think. Helps take the emotional and knee jerk reactions out of play. :rolleyes: I'm all ears. I'll do a little googling over the lunch hour to see if anything comes up. |
Unfortunatly, all those so far who have stepped up to the plate FOR xbows, have done so with the mind sight that they believe that xbows open the door for more hunter oppoturnity.But come accross as jealous. Yet bow hunting has opened the door for hunter growth for years, and given equal oppoturnity to all to try.
Most bow hunters have lead the way in trying to resolve situations and problems with hunting it's self. ( i.e sunday hunting, your welcome). When the gun law came up, even though there are bow hunter that don't touch rifles, I didn't hear a single person say, skrew them guys, it doesn't affect me I'm voting against!! We stood behind the gun population. An intresting situation is arising, that I am seeing. None here FOR xbows is actually an exclusive Xbow hunter. I have yet to find posted on A.O a confirmed big game Xbow kill, during the hunting season....WHY? Does no one who argues for them use them. So why argue for something like that? The oppoturnity to form a club, or brotherhood of xbow hunters has not started. There fight is based on the hard work of other organization, and lick a tick have tried to hang on and suck the blood out of these hard fighting organizations. If an xbow club, spent the time(years) the money (thousands) and the political channels like other hunting facits have, then they to would have earned a right to speak. But until we stop talking about a rifle like weapon, with no real following or actual members, I believe this should be a mute topic. Start where the bow hunting community started, gain some members, contribute more to hunting, like bowhunters pay, and work your way up to a level where you might have a case. Most bowhunters are united in saying that: -They are not a bow -They shouldn't have the same season as Bows have -They shouldn't be allowed in 212,248, and 410 -They should have there own season (perhaps a primitive weapons season in dec for two weeks) -Bow hunters would be happy (they wouldn't lose everything they fought for) -A chance for hunter growth would be generated -An extended hunting season would benefit everyone Heck I might even buy one if it meant I could hunt in rifle zones in december for 2 weeks! Would that not be a great solution to everyones needs????? |
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I did a little googleing over lunch and found a few articles. Really hard to find Canadian ones though. Good one here, and the author uses FACTS. http://hunting.about.com/od/arch/l/aa020716a.htm Conclusion from the article: Quote:
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Do you bow hunt? Have you ever tryed a compound or a xbow? Why is it that you want to use a xbow so bad?Is it cause you keep getting busted drawing back or is it just to hard to do?:lol: I want to know all of this to see what is your deal. I agree with everything pottymouth has said in regards to this subject. I have used a cross bow (not hunting) and It has more advantages I dont agree with them in an archery season. Primitive weapons season ok. |
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Then again maybe you golf with a mechanical golf club. One that makes the sport easier and takes out a lot of the human error...kinda like a XBow does.:evilgrin: I'm not hot under the collar yet today. Just jealous because i wish i was golfing toady. |
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Crossbows...
I began my archery life with a recurve, then went to a compound, then tried a crossbow for a while. In BC, I think the regulations were a bit more inclusive of crossbows at the time.
My conclusions?... A crossbow has some advantages at closer distances (under 30 yards?) They are fast and accurate at those distances. Past 30-or-so yards, I would take the compound hands-down and would challenge any freehand-crossbow shooter any day at 30+ distances. At close range, the crossbow is accurate but at longer ranges, they are finicky and unforgiving if you're at all off in your distance calculation [due to the short arrows]. As well, I found the crossbow cumbersome and awkward in the bush. In the end, I sold the stupid thing and bought a wedding ring. I think crossbows can give a false impression that they are "super-killers" when they are not. |
how bout that....
that wedding ring trade off sure got more expensive in a hurry eh?:D |
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