When walking with someone else, never have one in the chamber. Regardless of how competent or confident a person is, a first accidental discharge can happen in spite of years of training or experience IMO. If for no other reason it’s a good safety model to pass on to others. When hunting alone and anticipating a shot opportunity I will have one in the chamber with the safety on, muzzle pointed in a safe direction :)
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There are many "accidents" that take place during to loading and unloading of guns. I would bet money it is the most common instance of accidental discharge. It is also common for people to be shot with a presumed unloaded firearm.
The only accidental discharges I have ever witnessed was when slamming shut a break action shotgun. Where exactly are the barrels pointing when a break action is closed. It can't be up because the shells would fall out and it would be just as unlikely that it be pointed straight down as one would have to be lifting the butt stock into an awkward position to achieve this. I am not saying people that carry an open shotgun are pointing it at other hunters. I am suggesting that the barrel is slightly below horizontal and hopefully pointed down range. The problem I have is that my dogs are generally down range. Add to this an excited hunter, and this could be dangerous IMO. Anyway, safety on, gun loaded and barrels up or you can find someone else's dogs to hunt over. Right wrong or indifferent, thems the rules. People might also want to consider the amount of dust ect., that enters via an opened action and the undo wear to the pins with the action not being locked up when walking. If I am with another hunter and we are walking together, I unload and take up the rear. I make no attempt to load and fire if buddy misses. I will not walk with another person behind me with a loaded rifle or shotgun. I deer hunt alone and have one in the chamber with safety on. I hunt in the bush and racking a round is just not an option. I like very close quarters where raising the rifle takes care and extreme quiet. I have had them hear the safety. |
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when I hunt alone one in safety on
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Always one loaded and safety on
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I never ever use the safety. Loaded magazine empty chamber and rifle uncocked. If I'm in a blind loaded mag and bolt open. Muzzle is always up. If I don't have time to chamber a round when hunting then imo I don't have time to properly shoot the animal I'm hunting.
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For big game I mostly hunt in a stand .I chamber a round when I get there.safety on .my first fifteen years of hunting was in shotgun only areas of southern ontario.i can't imagine seeing a deer at 50 yds or less ,then racking a shell into the old 870 and having the deer stay still while all that racket is going on.i have seen deer come alert at a safety coming off as well.muzzle control
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I suspect most of the answers here really depend on the type of hunting being done.
To me, it makes little sense to be stalking without a round chambered. The noise of chambering one will undo hours of patient slow movement into position. Similarly, why not have a round chambered if you are sitting in a blind? If I am not stalking, or have a rifle slung, I am much more likely to have the chamber empty. As others have pointed out though, muzzle control matters even when you think the chamber is empty. I have seen many instances of hunters, and sport shooters opening the action on their gun, and being surprised when a round dropped out. At least half the time they were previously carelessly pointing it around stating it was unloaded. |
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If I'm hunting out of blind I'm loaded. If I'm walking with my double barrel,it's usually cracked with shells in the chamber if with the pumps or autoloader they're not loaded while walking, when walking with rifles they are never loaded,only load when I see the target, sometimes guns go off accidentaly ,seen a single shot Cooey go of for no reason in a boat blew a hole right in the boat ,years ago while hunting with my brothers my pump went while chambering a load, the shot hit road and peppered my brothers legs,there was no harm done.I have a lot of respect for guns it only takes a second to have a life altering accident,my 2 cents happy hunting.
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I used to hunt with the safety on, until I came across a deer, shouldered my rifle, squeezed and nothing happened because the safety was on. I was never really comfortable walking around with a round in the chamber anyway. I also found it cumbersome to unload everytime I came across sketchy terrain. I like to be consistent so the is less chance for error if I load everytime I intend to shoot.
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I have never used the safety on any gun. Loaded (ready to fire) or unloaded(will not fire).:)
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When hunting big game, I usually have the chamber empty unless still hunting, or making a final stalk, or when on stand. For waterfowl from a blind, the chamber is loaded the safety on, and the muzzle pointed in a safe direction. When upland hunting, the gun is broken over my shoulder, and I only close the action when the dog is on point, and I am about to flush the bird. In all cases, proper muzzle control is the priority.
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I hunt mostly heavy timber and things happen fast,loaded with safety on all the time on foot.plus I hunt solo 99 percent of time so trusting myself in numerous ways is a must cause a sharp stick in the eye can ruin your day or life.
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X 2 Elkhunter ! I know for a fact I will never shoot myself or anyone else BECAUSE , There Is NOTHING out there worth getting killed over and if you don't get to shoot on time and you fail to fire What about it? Tomorrow is another day! I keep my chamber empty at all times , I have seen the results of accidental shootings?? never in my company always after the fact RIGHT after !You walk with a loaded gun with me ? You stay in the car! Lord almighty ! what a stupid thing to do!
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I have plenty of faith in myself and anyone I hunt with EXCEPT that at my age and experience I know sheet happens to the best of them ! If everyone was as sure about themselves as some seem to be WHY are we still hearing of gun accidents? There wouldn't even be a point in talking about it would there ? But to each his own , Except when you are with me!
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I agree 100 percent with you,a guy has to have faith in his handling of his weapon or just stay home and bake cookies.Nervous Nellies are dangerous. |
Round in the chamber, bolt in but not " down". My bolt is a little stiff though so it doesnt slide open on me.
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