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LacLaBicheNS 04-29-2012 12:22 PM

what to burn in wood stove?
 
which would you choose? poplar, spruce or pine..

I am lenaing towards poplar becuase its easier to cut. Although it smells, I find it burns better then spruce or pine

dumoulin 04-29-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LacLaBicheNS (Post 1416462)
which would you choose? poplar, spruce or pine..

I am lenaing towards poplar becuase its easier to cut. Although it smells, I find it burns better then spruce or pine

Neither. Birch is the ticket! You have lots your way too!

209x50 04-29-2012 12:30 PM

I use cured birch in the house, poplar or beetle killed pine in the garage. I like the pine better than the poplar.

Erik 04-29-2012 12:32 PM

Always used birch, followed by pine and sometimes spruce. Poplar is just not good despite its abundance.

riden 04-29-2012 12:35 PM

I can get poplar super easy and cheap, so I do. Birch is better, but I don't care.

Poplar is a lot cleaner in the house than spruce.

LacLaBicheNS 04-29-2012 12:57 PM

there is some birch up here.. but its too muddy to get too..!! I just need to get out of the house and do something so I figured I'd add ot the wood pile

Dog_River 04-29-2012 01:06 PM

In order
 
1) Birch

2) Pine

3) Poplar

4) Spruce

with that said I burn them all

Dog_River

Lefty-Canuck 04-29-2012 01:07 PM

I know that poplar is cleaner to have in the house but I don't think it burns cleaner than the other choices....in fact isn't poplar one of the woods that if you burn it a lot you should have the chimney cleaned more often?

LC

Dog_River 04-29-2012 01:18 PM

I have burned poplar for years and think it's a very clean wood to burn. With that said. ALL species should be properly dried and stored. You burn green stuff in any wood and you are asking for trouble not to mention low BTU output.

Dog_River

KegRiver 04-29-2012 01:27 PM

When all you have is wood for heat, poplar turns out to be one of the best.

Softwood such as pine and spruce are not good, it produces way too much creosote.

Birch is okay but it`s heavy in relation to the heat produced, hard to split, and hard to find.

Poplar is low creosote, easy to split, readily available and relatively light in relation to the heat produced.

Although different charts show different values, most charts show poplar as producing about the same amount of heat per cubic meter, or chord as Pine and Spruce.

Here are some figures from one such chart.


Million BTUs per chord. Pounds per chord dry

White Birch 20.3 3179

Poplar-Trembling Aspen 17.7 2400

Pine 17.1 2580

White Spruce 16.2 2520

As you can see, poplar produces very nearly the same amount of heat, pound for pound as birch, and considerably more per pound then either Spruce or Pine.

Big Daddy Badger 04-29-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LacLaBicheNS (Post 1416462)
which would you choose? poplar, spruce or pine..

I am lenaing towards poplar becuase its easier to cut. Although it smells, I find it burns better then spruce or pine

We used to burn poplar (cotton wood) a lot.
But it needs to dry for a season...nice heat...common...non commercial for lumber and long burning.

Otherwise all 3 choices soot up PDQ.

My favorite is birch or nice dry tamarack

chewydog 04-29-2012 03:09 PM

I used to burn 12 chords a year as we heated our house with wood. I found a mix between pine and white aspen to give good heat and leave very little ash.
Birch is too much work!!

sheephunter 04-29-2012 03:11 PM

We burn aspen (poplar) just because of ease of access to it. It does burn clean but it leaves a lot of ash so cleaning the firebox often is required. I'd pick birch if I had access to it.

Just ordered a new stove yesterday.....seems a weird time of year but it fits into the reno plans now...lol

MountainTi 04-29-2012 03:18 PM

Poplar is all right if you cut it green, split and stack it till it is cured. Seem to get better heat and less ash that way. That said, tamarack is my favorite, gives off better heat than birch. Hard to go wrong with dry pine and spruce either

moosemad 04-29-2012 05:24 PM

Heat my cabin with wood in the winter and what I found is:
- pine and spruce burn fast and pop a lot. If you like to open the front doors and use the screen there is always a mess of ashes to clean up.
- poplar gives lots of heat and no "popping" , mostly stays inside your stove with door open.
- birch is the best of both worlds but if you are paying for it you are paying for it. Almost twice the cost of poplar. If you cut it yourself it is heavier and harder to find.
In my opinion whatever is close by you can cut down, dry out and burn will be your best bet. If it is dried out (seasoned) enough you should be happy.

50/50 04-29-2012 05:38 PM

I sell about 150 cords of wood a year. Most people buy/prefer Pine because its cheap. Birch seems to be an open fireplace wood. Aspen (not black poplar) doesn't sell well;people say the bark creates to much ash.

My personal preference is:

Birch for an outdoor cooking fire (bark must be all burnt)
Pine/spruce for a campfire -for the flames
Aspen for home heat- no creosote

Most don't burn Pine/spruce hot enough to burn the creosote in the wood and it builds in the chimney. I cut/split my own aspen green and very wet , That seems to work the best instead of letting it dry in log form.

anthony5 04-29-2012 07:23 PM

Good wood
 
Spent many a year growing up in the the bush, actually had to cut the stuff at 7 years old. Spruce or pine was what we used for the kitchen stove , but when it came to throw some heat it was always birch, more heat than oak, and smelled a lot better. Pine, Spruce in NW ONT has all of the creosote that will cause chimney fires in every day use, if not cleaned regularly,or if nor properly seasoned.If you know what your doing use the trees with needles for heat and the trees with leaves for cooking,unless you have an abundant supply of birch for heat. That would be my way to go but can't speak for everyone.

Rocky7 04-29-2012 07:29 PM

Tamarac.

We burn several cords a winter and there's way less ash than either poplar, spruce or pine. Easier on the chimney than birch. Very hot, too. It's a bugger to split, though, so unless you have access to a hydraulic splitter, I'd go with something else.

1899b 04-29-2012 07:33 PM

My exwifes parents. When can i stop by with em????

Mariko's Rod 04-29-2012 07:35 PM

The nice thing about poplar is if its seasoned at least one year the bark comes off in large peices when you chop and you can break it up easily by hand and use it for kindeling.

TheKi 04-29-2012 07:40 PM

Pine, nothing beats the sound of pine burning

unclebuck 04-29-2012 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LacLaBicheNS (Post 1416462)
which would you choose? poplar, spruce or pine..

I am lenaing towards poplar becuase its easier to cut. Although it smells, I find it burns better then spruce or pine

The local Scouting organization has a swack of seasoned, split birch for sale at $280./cord picked up. Call Ken Yakimec if you are interested.

CNP 04-29-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KegRiver (Post 1416547)
When all you have is wood for heat, poplar turns out to be one of the best.

Softwood such as pine and spruce are not good, it produces way too much creosote.

Birch is okay but it`s heavy in relation to the heat produced, hard to split, and hard to find.

Poplar is low creosote, easy to split, readily available and relatively light in relation to the heat produced.

Although different charts show different values, most charts show poplar as producing about the same amount of heat per cubic meter, or chord as Pine and Spruce.

Here are some figures from one such chart.


Million BTUs per chord. Pounds per chord dry

White Birch 20.3 3179

Poplar-Trembling Aspen 17.7 2400

Pine 17.1 2580

White Spruce 16.2 2520

As you can see, poplar produces very nearly the same amount of heat, pound for pound as birch, and considerably more per pound then either Spruce or Pine.

I agree with your order. I won't burn coniferous inside my house because it's dirty, sappy and it throws sparks. I don't care how much wood weighs when I burn it and it isn't sold by weight.......just sayin' that weight isn't any factor that concerns me. The more it weighs (dry) the more heat you are going to get out of it.

Used to burn nothing but maple, beech, oak and ash back in Ontario.

Green wood will produce less heat and more creosote.

riden 04-29-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKi (Post 1417048)
Pine, nothing beats the sound of pine burning

Everytime it pops my wife acts like a bullet went off. Makes her nervous, always worried somethging is wrong.

Women

fordtruckin 04-29-2012 10:16 PM

I'm gunna go out on a limb and say wood? sorry,, I couldn't help it. Personally I like Birch, Oak, Maple and Ash. Unfortunately you don't find much of those woods out west so I stick with mostly pine. I can't stand splitting poplar or the ash it leaves.

Grizzly Adams 04-29-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fordtruckin (Post 1417377)
I'm gunna go out on a limb and say wood? sorry,, I couldn't help it. Personally I like Birch, Oak, Maple and Ash. Unfortunately you don't find much of those woods out west so I stick with mostly pine. I can't stand splitting poplar or the ash it leaves.

Whatever is close by and well dried. :D Brother in law is one of those wood snobs. On our Alberta elk hunt, I finally handed him the axe and sent him off to find me some oak, maple or walnut. :lol:

Grizz

u_cant_rope_the_wind 04-29-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dog_River (Post 1416521)
1) Birch

2) Pine

3) Poplar

4) Spruce

with that said I burn them all

Dog_River

X2

u_cant_rope_the_wind 04-29-2012 10:33 PM

Burn Black poplar :sHa_shakeshout:

KegRiver 04-29-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky7 (Post 1417029)
Tamarac.

We burn several cords a winter and there's way less ash than either poplar, spruce or pine. Easier on the chimney than birch. Very hot, too. It's a bugger to split, though, so unless you have access to a hydraulic splitter, I'd go with something else.

Everything you say about Tamarac is correct from my experience.

We used it for cooking, in the old cook stove, when we could get it.

Problem is, there isn't many places where one can find good firewood size Tamarac. Harder still is finding dead Tamarac and green Tamarac is a bear to cure.

50/50 04-30-2012 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KegRiver (Post 1417425)
Everything you say about Tamarac is correct from my experience.

We used it for cooking, in the old cook stove, when we could get it.

Problem is, there isn't many places where one can find good firewood size Tamarac. Harder still is finding dead Tamarac and green Tamarac is a bear to cure.

I left a couple logging truck loads of Tamarak out in the bush to dry last winter. The mill didn't want it. I figure if it sat a summer in log form then a summer split I should be ok. There was even some double cut stuff (over 24").


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