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PistonBroke 10-03-2012 03:17 PM

Is there really an answer for this question ????
 
What happens when an unstoppable force
Meets an immovable object ????

FishingMOM 10-03-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PistonBroke (Post 1632419)
What happens when an unstoppable force
Meets an immovable object ????

There is no such thing as an immovable object.

Grizzly Adams 10-03-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PistonBroke (Post 1632419)
What happens when an unstoppable force
Meets an immovable object ????


Fusion. :D


Grizz

twofifty 10-03-2012 03:23 PM

Quebec and Alberta leave Canada.

Dacotensis 10-03-2012 03:49 PM

Divorce Lawyers get wealthy?

fordtruckin 10-03-2012 03:51 PM

Sounds like my uncle after thanksgiving dinner.....

Ken07AOVette 10-03-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams (Post 1632430)
Fusion. :D


Grizz

Have to agree, best answer.

Classic_Cool 10-03-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PistonBroke (Post 1632419)
What happens when an unstoppable force
Meets an immovable object ????

An angel gets its wings?

Lefty-Canuck 10-03-2012 04:07 PM

That sir was the moment I was born....

LC :)

LeroyvdH 10-03-2012 04:07 PM

Guy named Newton answered the questions. Laws 1-2-3
Been 30 some years since physics class isn't gravity the only constant force?
Leroy

50/50 10-03-2012 04:09 PM

force = energy.. energy cannot be created nor destroyed , mearly changed form.. therefore the force turns to light , heat , sound, (any other form of energy)..

headache now ..

PistonBroke 10-03-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams (Post 1632430)
Fusion. :D


Grizz

I have to also agree , best answer , never thought
Of fusion !!! You sir grizzly Adams are a whiz ,

C & C 10-03-2012 08:17 PM

Kinda sounds like something that might have hapened in vanilla WOW

mayuan 10-03-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PistonBroke (Post 1632419)
What happens when an unstoppable force
Meets an immovable object ????

Cool question. The only problem is that only one can be allowed the unstoppable force or the immovable object. One has to be false in order for the other to be true.

With that knowledge I would say you get a green bunny with pink wings.

Ken07AOVette 10-03-2012 09:20 PM

The answer is only one is possible.

Redneck Renagade 10-03-2012 09:45 PM

Common responses to this paradox resort to logic and semantics.

Logic: if such a thing as an irresistible force exists, then no object is immovable, and vice versa. It is logically impossible to have these two entities (a force that cannot be resisted and an object that cannot be moved by any force) in the same universe.

Semantics: if there is such a thing as an irresistible force, then the phrase immovable object is meaningless in that context, and vice versa, and the issue amounts to the same thing as, for example, asking for a triangle that has four sides.

This paradox is a form of the omnipotence paradox, but that paradox is most often discussed in the context of God's omnipotence (Can God create a stone so heavy it cannot be lifted, not even by God Himself?").

The paradox should be understood as an exercise in logic, not as the postulation of a possible reality. According to modern scientific understanding, no force is completely irresistible, and there are no immovable objects and cannot be any, as even a minuscule force will cause a slight acceleration on an object of any mass. An immovable object would have to have an inertia that was infinite, and therefore infinite mass. Such an object would collapse under its own gravity and create a singularity. An unstoppable force would require infinite energy, which does not exist in a finite universe.

CaberTosser 10-03-2012 09:49 PM

I'm with Ken. The greater of the two forces would make itself apparrent after the two interact. The immovable object part seems rather impossible though, thinking from a planetary/galactic perspective. We think of mountains as immovable, but it's been accomplished. We think of mother Earth as a reference scale to nearly everything, but there are plenty larger planets, and each of them is in motion (immovable? I think not)

The 'immovable' object would already be in motion, so I propose that it's trajectory would change and all kinds of debris would result. Though our tiny human life span precludes such data gathering, it would be neat to record planetary collisions in other star systems and what evolves geologically over the ages from such events.

Now: Chunky Beef Stew : Spoon or Fork?

Albertadiver 10-03-2012 09:50 PM

Haven't you seen the new THOR movie?? 'nuff said :sHa_shakeshout:

vcmm 10-03-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Albertadiver (Post 1633005)
Haven't you seen the new THOR movie?? 'nuff said :sHa_shakeshout:

You mean when Thor meets the Hulk.:argue2:

fish gunner 10-03-2012 10:07 PM

most MBT fall as close to the imovable object as one can find, roughly 70 short tons. the APFSDS(DU) round is as close to the unstopable object in the same vein. the kinetic round propelled to 1600+mps ( meters per sec) cuts thru said imovable object with no problem. in fact said round will penetrate one meter of solid hardend steel. close enough for the real world?? or 42,lol.

Albertadiver 10-03-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vcmm (Post 1633035)
You mean when Thor meets the Hulk.:argue2:

I saw this in real life once! KenAO07vette met the sleazy crackhead wanting to date his daughter.

The result was very much the same! :lol

Alberta Bigbore 10-03-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lefty-canuck (Post 1632496)
that sir was the moment i was born....

Lc :)

lol!!!

Nomad 10-03-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PistonBroke (Post 1632419)
What happens when an unstoppable force
Meets an immovable object ????

It will bounce off.

FishingMOM 10-04-2012 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CaberTosser (Post 1633002)
Now: Chunky Beef Stew : Spoon or Fork?

Fork and some bread!
Fork to eat the chunky parts and bread to soak up the gravy!:sHa_shakeshout:

PistonBroke 10-04-2012 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Redneck Renagade (Post 1632996)
Common responses to this paradox resort to logic and semantics.

Logic: if such a thing as an irresistible force exists, then no object is immovable, and vice versa. It is logically impossible to have these two entities (a force that cannot be resisted and an object that cannot be moved by any force) in the same universe.

Semantics: if there is such a thing as an irresistible force, then the phrase immovable object is meaningless in that context, and vice versa, and the issue amounts to the same thing as, for example, asking for a triangle that has four sides.

This paradox is a form of the omnipotence paradox, but that paradox is most often discussed in the context of God's omnipotence (Can God create a stone so heavy it cannot be lifted, not even by God Himself?").

The paradox should be understood as an exercise in logic, not as the postulation of a possible reality. According to modern scientific understanding, no force is completely irresistible, and there are no immovable objects and cannot be any, as even a minuscule force will cause a slight acceleration on an object of any mass. An immovable object would have to have an inertia that was infinite, and therefore infinite mass. Such an object would collapse under its own gravity and create a singularity. An unstoppable force would require infinite energy, which does not exist in a finite universe.


Love the copy and paste bro , you googled that , stop trying to
Sound so smart, hahahaha

PistonBroke 10-04-2012 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nomad (Post 1633094)
It will bounce off.

Lmao, lmao

nekred 10-04-2012 08:33 AM

Black hole.... a singularity that would rip the fabric of space/time

a black hole is both infinite energy and mass and cannot be contained...

infinity divided by zero.....is a singularity

Albertadiver 10-04-2012 08:36 AM

This thread needs Chuck Norris.

winged1 10-04-2012 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redneck Renagade (Post 1632996)
Common responses to this paradox resort to logic and semantics.

Logic: if such a thing as an irresistible force exists, then no object is immovable, and vice versa. It is logically impossible to have these two entities (a force that cannot be resisted and an object that cannot be moved by any force) in the same universe.

Semantics: if there is such a thing as an irresistible force, then the phrase immovable object is meaningless in that context, and vice versa, and the issue amounts to the same thing as, for example, asking for a triangle that has four sides.

This paradox is a form of the omnipotence paradox, but that paradox is most often discussed in the context of God's omnipotence (Can God create a stone so heavy it cannot be lifted, not even by God Himself?").

The paradox should be understood as an exercise in logic, not as the postulation of a possible reality. According to modern scientific understanding, no force is completely irresistible, and there are no immovable objects and cannot be any, as even a minuscule force will cause a slight acceleration on an object of any mass. An immovable object would have to have an inertia that was infinite, and therefore infinite mass. Such an object would collapse under its own gravity and create a singularity. An unstoppable force would require infinite energy, which does not exist in a finite universe.


I supect the two do exsist, in unison, transistioning between each other at the boundaries, like a dust storm, but that storm is time. It's where we live.

dcutter 10-04-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PistonBroke (Post 1632419)
What happens when an unstoppable force
Meets an immovable object ????

Chuck Norris happens.


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