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HunterDave 04-14-2018 11:32 AM

Blonde Coyote
 
A fella up by Smoky Lake caught this guy. Pretty cool.

https://i.imgur.com/6UazpOg.jpg

gman1978 04-14-2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave (Post 3770451)
A fella up by Smoky Lake caught this guy. Pretty cool.

https://i.imgur.com/6UazpOg.jpg

Pretty neat! I usually catch a half dozen like that a year in one specific area. They do very poorly on the auction. Almost not worth skinning.

AlbertaAl 04-14-2018 08:08 PM

wouldnt waste my time processing any of those.

nube 04-14-2018 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AlbertaAl (Post 3770660)
wouldnt waste my time processing any of those.

An you were getting ticked off at the guy tossing coyotes in the ditch. Those coyotes are worth money and good money at that. They may bot be the prettiest but nothing wrong with them at all.

fred1 04-14-2018 10:05 PM

Cool, interesting how he seems significantly longer than the others.

dfrobert 04-14-2018 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlbertaAl (Post 3770660)
wouldnt waste my time processing any of those.

Good for you. Please enlighten us with pics of your top lot dogs.

HunterDave 04-15-2018 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nube (Post 3770692)
An you were getting ticked off at the guy tossing coyotes in the ditch. Those coyotes are worth money and good money at that. They may bot be the prettiest but nothing wrong with them at all.

Bazzinga! :sHa_sarcasticlol:

It’s actually a very nice pelt other than it not being the colour that the market prefers. If it were mine I’d get it tanned just because I think it’s cool.

It’s just bigger because it was a big old male and the others in the picture were smaller females and juveniles.

AlbertaAl 04-15-2018 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nube (Post 3770692)
An you were getting ticked off at the guy tossing coyotes in the ditch. Those coyotes are worth money and good money at that. They may bot be the prettiest but nothing wrong with them at all.

YOU either need glasses or maybe thats the only quality of dogs you're accustomed to catching which is therefore understandable.
Bush trappers cant be choosy.

jawa 04-15-2018 10:24 AM

Nice looking dawgs the blond is different guard hair blends right in makes it hard too see
back brushing after turning helps under fur dry good practice especially if you have washed them
Nice job on put up should average over a hundred dollars a dawg not bad for dark northeren bush dawgs
Anyone throwing dawgs that look like that in the bush should take a long look in the mirror your ethics are in question
I will stick to my hillbilly ways the only ones i throw out are mangy or very badly rubbed animals not every one is going to be the perfect color would check the regs pretty sure you can be charged for wasting fur for that reason, and buy one persons comments should be
Wow has this site deteriorated in a hurry

HunterDave 04-15-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AlbertaAl (Post 3770660)
wouldnt waste my time processing any of those.

Please bring me as many of these quality of coyotes as you can that you wouldn't bother putting up and I will pay you cash for them. :)

HunterDave 04-15-2018 12:06 PM

Jawa, Yes, it's legal to shoot coyotes on private property and just throw them in the bush. You'd be surprised at how many landowners around here do exactly that. Buying those coyotes that would otherwise go to waste is a niche of mine.

Talking moose 04-15-2018 12:09 PM

Looks more like a southern prairie dog.

jawa 04-15-2018 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave (Post 3770980)
Jawa, Yes, it's legal to shoot coyotes on private property and just throw them in the bush. You'd be surprised at how many landowners around here do exactly that. Buying those coyotes that would otherwise go to waste is a niche of mine.

Yes Dave a land owner or joe blow off the street can shoot coyotes on private property that you have permission on,and throw them in the bush.
where the law differs is when you take them under the authority of a trapping license you cant allow usable fur to go to waste
Same as a hunting license cant just toss a deer because he is not big enough for you a trapper cant throw animals away because the color isnt what they want the animal when taken under the authority of a trapping license can only be tossed if the animal is sick , and if the pelt is damaged beyond being salvagable
you can still be charged if damage is deemed to be caused by negligence on the trappers part
This is my understanding of the law correct me if im wrong

bushbug 04-15-2018 04:28 PM

reply to Al
 
Not everybody can pick and choose what they catch.But i do skin and board everything i catch

nube 04-15-2018 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlbertaAl (Post 3770774)
YOU either need glasses or maybe thats the only quality of dogs you're accustomed to catching which is therefore understandable.
Bush trappers cant be choosy.

Going back to degrading comments again I see .....
I am accustomed to catching quite a few coyotes Al and in 2 places in the province very far from each other.
I will say it again...... Those coyotes are worth the time to put up and worth good money!
I would question what you are throwing in the garbage!

hunterdan44 04-15-2018 05:27 PM

I like it ! Very cool nice trophy hang it on the wall in camp.


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Marten1576 04-15-2018 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nube (Post 3771113)
Going back to degrading comments again I see .....
I am accustomed to catching quite a few coyotes Al and in 2 places in the province very far from each other.
I will say it again...... Those coyotes are worth the time to put up and worth good money!
I would question what you are throwing in the garbage!

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HunterDave 04-15-2018 07:34 PM

I had to check.....I’ve had oddly coloured coyotes that couldn’t be categorized in any of the different NAFA auction colours. No blondes though. Just last auction I had one that graded XL-LGE II (no colour) 1-4 that sold for US$66. For +$80/coyote I’ll put them up until my arms fall off. :lol:

I’ll ask the fella what he gets for it next auction.

nube 04-15-2018 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave (Post 3771209)
I had to check.....I’ve had oddly coloured coyotes that couldn’t be categorized in any of the different NAFA auction colours. No blondes though. Just last auction I had one that graded XL-LGE II (no colour) 1-4 that sold for US$66. For +$80/coyote I’ll put them up until my arms fall off. :lol:

I’ll ask the fella what he gets for it next auction.

For the Hr of work it will take to do a yote $50 is worth it and if you don't put a bunch of holes in a coyote these days they are all at least $50 and more. You can't complain about that. Even an Early season poor grade coyote brings good money

TrapperMike 04-15-2018 09:23 PM

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Here’s one for you Dave. The coyote on the left is a xxl. I had to use a extended stretch to do the one on the right.

Gboe8 04-15-2018 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AlbertaAl (Post 3770660)
wouldnt waste my time processing any of those.

Your the guy that catches 50 coyotes and sends 10 in and brags about his 150$ average. Even if you get 30$ a dog still worth doing it.

gman1978 04-15-2018 09:48 PM

I have a few of those “ blondes” up for sale on the next auction. I will know what they sell for. By the way I call them “Mutts” not blondes lol!!

HunterDave 04-15-2018 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TrapperMike (Post 3771260)
Here’s one for you Dave. The coyote on the left is a xxl. I had to use a extended stretch to do the one on the right.

That is phenomenal! :sign0068: You didn’t happen to weigh it did you? I had one this year that the tail was touching the floor when it was on the board but yours looks way bigger. Nice catch!

coyoteman 04-15-2018 10:45 PM

Blonde yote
 
Usual hunt and trap south and east of Calgary, have not ran across one yet, if I do may get it done for the hunting camp.
To repect the animal you hunt, is to be a hunter, the only animals we dipose of are diseased, all other skinned and processed.
We only hunt, when the fur is good, the fur is valuable, why waste it?
My hunting pard, took the time to release some small this years, saying , as it was females--well thats 6 more for next year.
They can be hunted to extinction---Already there is a very long list in that regard.

TrapperMike 04-16-2018 09:49 PM

I think this one weighed 83 pounds. I caught a number of these large ones west of red deer. The largest was one I shot north of sylvan lake that crawled in it a culvert. I had to crawl in and get it. Made sure it was dead first. It weighed 107 pounds. Showed it to a couple of old boy trappers from the area who figured it was crossed with a wolf. They told me it was not the first one that they had seen in the area.

coyoteman 04-16-2018 10:16 PM

yotes
 
Thats a dandy, 107lbs, I think for the most part ones to the south dont go over 50 lbs.
The old rail lines have in many places 12 in culverts, I have lost two, this past couple of years, in those culverts, just bad luck to hit them near the entrances.
I came back with a light, and strong cord, attached a heavy hook, and cut a long slender sapling, just out of reach. Dog gone a couple of hundred lost, both running shots.

HunterDave 04-16-2018 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TrapperMike (Post 3771912)
I think this one weighed 83 pounds. I caught a number of these large ones west of red deer. The largest was one I shot north of sylvan lake that crawled in it a culvert. I had to crawl in and get it. Made sure it was dead first. It weighed 107 pounds. Showed it to a couple of old boy trappers from the area who figured it was crossed with a wolf. They told me it was not the first one that they had seen in the area.

It’s been proven that wolves will mate with coyotes if they don’t have other wolves to mate with. In fact, the Algonquin Wolf in Ontario is a hybrid of grey wolves, red wolves and coyotes. According to history and DNA, wolves were almost extinct and coyotes made their way east and started breeding with them. The size and colour looks about the same as an Algonquin Wolf.

https://youtu.be/66diqhTMv7k

Could it happen in Alberta? I don’t see why not. A hundred years ago there were no coyotes north of Edmonton here. As the wolves were pushed farther north the territory opened up to coyotes and they made their way up here. Those big coyotes had to have been hybrids of some sort and a coyote/wolf hybrid wouldn’t surprise me at all.

spoiledsaskhunter 04-17-2018 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by coyoteman (Post 3771928)
Thats a dandy, 107lbs, I think for the most part ones to the south dont go over 50 lbs.
The old rail lines have in many places 12 in culverts, I have lost two, this past couple of years, in those culverts, just bad luck to hit them near the entrances.
I came back with a light, and strong cord, attached a heavy hook, and cut a long slender sapling, just out of reach. Dog gone a couple of hundred lost, both running shots.

don't know if you've tried it, but a piece of barbed wire will go a long way into a culvert if you wiggle it around and work it back and forth.......when you get to the dog, start winding it around and around to tangle it up and viola! out she/he comes.

best way i've come up with anyhow.

TrapperMike 04-17-2018 09:40 PM

Built a tool out of 1 inch pvc pipe. 8 pieces of 6 foot pipe threaded to screw together. At the one end I built 2 different heads. One with a hook the other a brush made from barbed wire. Use it to pull critters out of culverts or beaver from pond.
When I was up at Dawson City we were told that the coyotes had moved in. Saw a couple on the father in laws old mine and was way bigger than our dogs but definitely a coyote.
Here’s a picture of that coyote after tanning.

TrapperMike 04-17-2018 10:10 PM

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Let’s try this again.


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