trap line dispatch gun
So after a couple seasons trying different guns. I decided I want
-something cheap. I can't stop it from getting wet and snowy. -a 17hmr. I've tried 22, 22 mag and 17hmr. 17 hmr easily best in knocking down with a head shot or a lung shot. -something short. I don't mind cutting down a barrel and a stock, but I'd rather buy something short to begin with. -open sites. -I prefer single shot break action or a magazine. I'm guessing single shot would be cheaper. Does such a gun exist? I'm fine with cutting down something, but what should I start with? |
I've never use a 223 for dispatch. Do they make big holes in a lung shot or head shot?
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In my opinion, the best "dispatch" gub is still nothing but a 22. From stingers to shorts, you get a wide variety of what you can shoot out of the gun. Personally, I shoot a savage mark 2. It's a bolt action with a 5 round mag and wood stock, as I feel the synthetic ones are cold on my face. If you want short and small though (I just like having a full stock to take long shots and grouse and beavers and what not) I would recommend a savage youth model mark 2 in 22. Single shot, short stock, short barrel and iron sights. And yes, I believe iron sights as a must as shooting something in a trap with a scope SUCKS. I do have a 22 mag but I don't like it, it blows the heads off things or exits on a chest shot. Same thing goes for a 17 hmr. But just my 2 cents
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They do make exactly what you want.
Get a TC Encore with a folding stock in 17hmr. Depending on barrel length, it will be right around 20" long when folded up,plus if the 17 barrel isn't what you want switch it out. |
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that would be a perfect dispatch rifle.IMO. need to pick one up.ASAP. personaly, i'ld have a cheap scope on it. would be a good beaver gun aswell. and i would rather dispatch from as far away as possible.17 hmr is great for that. |
I use a Chipmunk 22 that was mine when I was a kid and is now my Sons...it has a peep sight, single shot and is very nice to carry....and deadly accurate 30 yards and less. I'll weigh it later but I doubt it tops the scale any more than 2.5 lbs.
I should add....I think I scared this one into the snare as I was walking in! http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/...psujhrczeb.jpg LC |
I was thinking of buying one of these.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...psubvxe61z.jpg Chiappa Little Badger 22 Single shot I think they are quite economical. Meanwhile with the magnums springs and a good lock, a live coyote is a rarity. I need a sidearm much worse than a dispatch gun with all these stupid cougars lurking the prairie. One night one stalked up to me and growled at me over the creek bank while I was on my knees resetting a bunch of snares. All I could use was strong langauge! |
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lefty should look into upgrading his system. |
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Also .223 is too much for dispatch. I shot a wounded yote at 30yards and blew a 2"" hole in the other side. When I shoot yotes a 100yards I can't find the hole and no exit wound. My 2¢ |
[QUOTE=Lefty-Canuck;2746634]I use a Chipmunk 22 that was mine when I was a kid and is now my Sons...it has a peep sight, single shot and is very nice to carry....and deadly accurate 30 yards and less. I'll weigh it later but I doubt it tops the scale any more than 2.5 lbs.
I should add....I think I scared this one into the snare as I was walking in! Do you know where these are sold in Alberta? I like the old school look of it a lot. |
Something to remember!!
Federal government rules make most "sawed off" fire-arms prohibited |
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Thanks, I called them and they said there are no retailers in Canada for the Chipmunk guns but OIF (?) can get one if I ask a dealer to contact them. Never done that, so not sure how it would go.
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Stevens have a bolt action 22 with open sight, 13" barrel, roughly 300$
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Look at the Henry mini bolt stainless 22...it will fit all your needs for a trap line gun. There is one for sale on the buy and sell right now...
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thanks for all the suggestions. Ive got a couple ideas now
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The little badger one is a great little rifle. I kept mine in my truck and use it or go get it when I come across porcupines. One hand shoot ability is there, light, small and compact when not in use, 70 dollars new. Can't go wrong if it does break or gets misplaced. I think the price has come up on them now. I bought mine a couple years ago.
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Have a look at the TC hotshot. It's a break action 22. I've got one for my oldest son and it seems to be a decent rig.
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On a side note do not dispatch with lung shots, head shots only. A trapped animal has there adrenaline up when you go walking up to it. Can take a long time to expire with a lung shot. |
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Thats why I was thinking the 17hmr. Its fine for head shots on coyotes, takes down beaver easy and a lung/heart shot on a wolf to save the skull is quick and easy. Theres a huge difference in the internal damage from a 17hmr than a 22. |
I carry my 22-250 with me all the time setting snares cause I quite often get a shot a adog between baitsites . Yes it is too big for a dispatch gun , but with a reduced load i get by with only one gun instead of 2 . I keep the reduced loads in a seperate clip in my pack . You'd have to experiment with yours but I found if I loaded it down to about 3000 fps and used a 55gr SP bullet it did very little damage and no head shots please . . Just a thought .
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But the reason I want a cheap gun is so that when it gets beat up a bit I won't care. To make a long shot I'd need a scope as well. I don't want a scope. My chains on my foot holds are between 8-12 feet long. So I can't walk up and put the barrel close for a head shot. So I need iron sites. After looking at all the options I am getting one of those Chipua in a 17hmr. Cheap, don't care if it gets banged up, good for head shots on coyotes, good for double lung on a wolf, no scope, folds up to fit in my box. |
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I bought one of these for my kids and it is terrible for misfires. And I've tried all kinds of different ammo in it. I bought my kids Savage Rascals and they've been great. That being said, I'll probably be carrying a pink TC hotshot with me for a while as a dispatch gun just cuz I can't bring myself to sell it to someone and they have the same troubles with it for thier kids. I've also used downloaded. 22-250 with 30gr Barnes varmint grenades under. 2500fps and they killed em quickly behind the shoulder and didn't make a mess at all. Then I can still use full power loads if I need to. |
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17 hmr
17 goes everywhere with me. Will dispatch anything, never has an exit wound. Can shoot the odd yote or kitty with it, beaver slayer #1. Shells are cheap also. Used to bring a .22, but it will only serve 1 purpose.
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[QUOTE=eric2381;2748477]I bought one of these for my kids and it is terrible for misfires. And I've tried all kinds of different ammo in it. I bought my kids Savage Rascals and they've been great.
That being said, I'll probably be carrying a pink TC hotshot with me for a while as a dispatch gun just cuz I can't bring myself to sell it to someone and they have the same troubles with it for thier kids. I've also used downloaded. 22-250 with 30gr Barnes varmint grenades under. 2500fps and they killed em quickly behind the shoulder and didn't make a mess at all. Then I can still use full power loads if I need to.[/QUOTE I have the same gun and have had no issues with misfires. Wonder I your firing pin is defected or perhaps a bad chamber. |
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I think you may have just got a bad one. |
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