backpackers stoves
 

Are there any backpackers that carry 2 stoves, one wood burning for heat and the other gas for cooking.

Typically backpackers are minimalists and weight conscience. I carry a jetboil for heating water for freeze died meals. If it's cold, I put on more clothes or find wood/sticks to burn in a fire pit.

My wife and daughter did west coast trail with 15 others this summer.

7 Jet boils used. Would have been smart if they didnt bring so many lol. But was august on west coast. no need for more heat :)

Ti Goat has a good wood stove it's like 2lbs with pipe

cookstove
 

Tigoat and kifaru are the type of stoves that make people think they need their gas stove to get the cooking done without burning a bunch of wood to get the cooking done. They do not like waiting while 10% of the heat goes to the cook top and 50% or more goes up the chimney.

Still use a Coleman backpack stove, it gets er done, breakfast to supper.

used the MSR reactor 1 liter on a recent sheep hunt it was awesome.

I've been at -35 in a 6 man dome tent with a 14" Ti goat and I was in my under wear. Thank god I lost 50% of the heat I guess. So what stoves is this guy selling on kijiji? Wow I didn't know stoves were a hot button.

Full disclosure. The Ti goat is 4 lbs. I just weighted it. With pipe,bag and damper. A very handy stove that makes bad weather tolerable. I can't upload pics right now apparently. Yes I carry 2 stoves. One wood for when one is socked in and one for making coffee (canister pocket stove)

backpackers stoves
 

Right now I am using an Optimus nova multi fuel and am happy with it. It's definitely not the lightest but I mainly do 2-4 days so I don't need anything ultra light. As for heating stoves I've heard good things about the kifaru stoves. I have one of their backpacks and if the stoves are half the quality of their packs it will be an awesome product.


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MSR stoves
 

I use both the MSR Pocket rocket and Whisperlite.

I've carried a pocket rocket and a bio lite.

Don't worry about me, I have been backpacking and backpack hunting most of my life. I have my systems figured out very well. I have a very light titanium tarp stove that I rarely ever take, but if it is cold enough and I do, my cooking and heating system(2 stoves) would still be lighter than your set up.

Yes, I have read your many posts and threads on the subject in the past.

weight
 

Yes it's all about weight but also about level of comfort like inside or outside for the cooking and eating.
So to compare weights could you post your weight and my weight. You must know my weight because you say your is lighter.

Stoves
 

There's no need to get rude.

Chimpac is a nice guy, I've met him to look at his set up and there's some good thought that went into it. He's also self admittedly obsessed with stoves and how to get the most from them. His stove provides lots of heat and....a hot surface to cook on.

I still haven't seen the perfect back packing wood burning stove, nor the perfect white gas one either. Although I suspect that using a mantle would cut down fuel consumption by at least 50%....that's another subject for another day.

Do try and be respectful to others, it's a small world and we all need to get along.

Chef, the OP did exactly as I said from the beginning and proved my point. And once again responded to himself saying basically how doing it any different is wrong.

He only wants to argue that his way is right and everyone else who does different is wrong. This thread is about backpackers stoves, yet I don't think the op is backpacking at all. I think he is walking a little ways from his car, stopping there and making some chicken legs and drinking coffee and going to sleep. Nothing wrong with that, and no need for two stoves. But it is not backpacking.

When I backpack or backpack hunting I am usually on the move or moving from location to location, covering ground. Stopping for the evening to eat and rest. What about when I want a hot lunch and coffee when going from spot to spot? I have to start a fire or set up my wood burning stove to cook some lunch on or boil water? What about when I leave my camp set up and climb to the top of a mountain to spot sheep from? I need to start a fire just to have a coffee while spotting? The op obviously has no clue about why some people carry two stoves but wants to argue his system is the best anyways.

This is why I say the op's idea of backpacking and mine are vastly different. I think the title of the thread should be tent camping with a paint can stove and chicken legs. Nothing really to do with actual backpacking like the title says.

Backpacking stoves
 

When backpacking if I "must" boil some water I use a handful of twigs and have a fire. I'm a big proponent of not cooking although a hot meal is a wonderful thing, it requires a lot of heavy gear. A handful of pemmican and a slurp of instant coffee stirred into a cup of cold water isn't much fun to eat but it sure is lighter than a stove, cup etc.... I think the little alchol stoves that are made of pop cans are a cool idea for warming up a little bit of water.

clean up
 

purgatory.sv, Who did it wrong you or me

This thread is getting weirder yet.
I will miss the "I'm here to rescue the world from socialism" part though.


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see post#16
 

Probably me?


I am an admitted troll.


If anything the thread was derailed by not reporting or private message?

I think your stove and your post about tarps are excellent and I look forward to your posts, be it tarps or potential improvement in life.

Your tarp threads brought me back to when I stated camping and reminded me of more practical times.

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Don't worry about me, I have been backpacking and backpack hunting most of my life. I have my systems figured out very well. I have a very light titanium tarp stove that I rarely ever take, but if it is cold enough and I do, my cooking and heating system(2 stoves) would still be lighter than your set up.

Yes, I have read your many posts and threads on the subject in the past.


crazy dave lost interest and did not want to post the weight of his 2 stoves he uses backpacking in cooler weather.
The weights for the stove I use are as follows, all steel summer stove/chimney 1.5 lbs.
clip on broiler oven .224 lbs.
winter riser pipe and stove extention .556lbs.
Anyone that has tin snips, awl, soldering gun, ball pean hammer can make 8 of the 11 parts needed for a summer stove, including a stove jack. Winter stove and oven adds 3 optional parts. No spark arrestor or damper are needed. All sheet metal needed can be got from 5 " similac and a smaller can. I will make parts for $5.00 each.
Just curious to know the weight and cost of the 2 stoves crazy dave and others carry.
Ti goat stove weight, Mgvande's weight 4 lbs. cost ?
gas stove weight? cost?
fuel and container weight
cost?
centerpole ( my chimney is centerpole) weight? cost?
wind screen for cooking outside in the wind, weight? cost?

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stove jack
 

Jetboils are so fast, but I'm low temps the fuel might have issues (like all fuel stoves). I use a biolite, not as much control over heat but you don't have to carry fuel with you. All stoves have their drawbacks and benefits. There is no "perfect" stove imo.

better wood stove for cooking
 

crazy davey and others carry a woodstove with chimney for heat inside their tent but also think they need a gas stove for cooking because the wood stove they have is no good for cooking.
If they use their gas stove they need to be cooking outside so they do not get co2 poisoned but also they are afraid the bears will get them if they cook inside.
Cooking outside in the wind, cold and rain is why a lot of people just do not go camping.
What they need is a better woodstove with a chimney that could cook as hot and fast as a gas stove inside.
Your tent will smell like food to a bear if you, who ate the food is in the tent regardless of where you cooked the food. You can bear spray a bear safer from inside the tent than if you were out side running around. Every shelter should have peek hole vents on each side.

I don't think I would even want to be near a can of bear spray inside a tent let alone shooting it off....lol.

Whoever mentioned this turned into a weird thread was right..... lol, following.:sHa_shakeshout:

spray
 

One hand with the bear spray put outside through a vent or lifted side of a tarp. Who would ever discharge bear spray inside their tent.
My last post should read CO instead of co2

I am going to tell the bears that you do not have bear spray with you when you sleep in a tent.

Good. Just don't tell them about the 12 gauge.

I'll join the fray and post up some pics of my little stove I carry . I cut this stove out on my plasma table and it works quite well . I used 16ga mild steel and it weighs in at 16 oz. Not a heater but an excellent alternative to lugging gas canisters or liquid fuel in and out on your trip.