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Frank the Thank 08-02-2016 10:23 PM

air pistol for grouse
 
Is anyone carry air pistol to shoot grouse when hunting big game?
Sometime I hunt big game in pretty big cut block and I would consider shooting the grouse along the way.
Is air pistol would be enough to take a grouse ?
I never had air pistol, only air rifle. I think air pistol would be light enough and not too noisy for certain area.
What do u guys think? Any experience or pistol recomendation would be great.
Thx
Frank

jednastka 08-02-2016 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank the Thank (Post 3292831)
Is anyone carry air pistol to shoot grouse when hunting big game?

I suggest you read the regs on bird game hunting first.

catnthehat 08-02-2016 10:29 PM

Under 500FPS is legal for grouse.
Cat

Bergerboy 08-02-2016 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jednastka (Post 3292836)
I suggest you read the regs on bird game hunting first.

I do not believe there is anything illegal as long as the air pistol is below 500fps. I carry a Smith and Wesson 79G.

Edit, cat beat me.

catnthehat 08-02-2016 10:34 PM

Yup, here s the link t the regulations
Item 5
http://albertaregulations.ca/huntingregs/genregs.html
Cat

Flight01 08-02-2016 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bergerboy (Post 3292839)
I do not believe there is anything illegal as long as the air pistol is below 500fps. I carry a Smith and Wesson 79G.

Edit, cat beat me.

Yeppers

Now. What air pistols y'all using? Suggestions on a first buy?

Passthru 08-03-2016 05:34 AM

I was gonna go the air pistol route cause I like grouse as well as big game. First got a slingshot, I suck at it. Then was gonna get an air pistol but then saw the Hammond Game Getter cartridges for all makes of rifles. Genius really, check them out. When not bow hunting I bring these

58thecat 08-03-2016 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Passthru (Post 3292967)
I was gonna go the air pistol route cause I like grouse as well as big game. First got a slingshot, I suck at it. Then was gonna get an air pistol but then saw the Hammond Game Getter cartridges for all makes of rifles. Genius really, check them out. When not bow hunting I bring these

How is the accuracy? I see only one perjectile for 7mm,
Got any pics?

I kinda like the pellet pistol hanging off my hip...cool Wild West factor.:)

Passthru 08-03-2016 05:52 AM

About the same as a .22 for range, maybe a tad less. Don't use it much as I'm concentrated on big game and the only grouse I usually see are flushed up from me walking. You have to load it in the same as a loose cartridge. Good for shots you can take your time with. Sorry no pics

Icon 08-03-2016 10:37 AM

As for what type of air pistol, it is really about personal preference and style. That said, I would make sure that it shoots a pointed pellet instead of the round BBs.

Some of the cheaper pistols are manually activated to load with air and not worth anything. Make sure you get one that has the air cartridge. Also know that only the first 5 or so shots will have the maximum FPS listed. After that, the air pressure in the cartridge is reduced and they get noticeably slower.

I believe some of the models also have a rifled barrel for accuracy. Might be something to consider.

^v^Tinda wolf^v^ 08-03-2016 11:42 AM

I use the old style crossman pump BB rifle. Many grouse have been taken with it and I'm not sure they even sell them anymore :thinking-006:

Richard B. 08-03-2016 11:51 AM

I carry sub sonic cast bullet loads while grouse hunting - easy to do if you are a hand loader- a number of places sell cast bullets for popular calibers

3blade 08-03-2016 12:07 PM

I have shot a few with my webley tempest. The 177 doesn't really have enough power to anchor them reliably. Suggest a 22 cal with flat pellets to break bones. A buddy has one and it works well.

Reality is it still makes enough noise to spook big game within earshot.

Also, make sure you aim at the body/wing butt...nothing worse than finding a starved grouse that had its beak or crop shot off.

Slash8 08-03-2016 01:07 PM

A Crossman 2240 (.22) is hard to beat except when its cold as it is Co2 powered but as far accuracy and energy is concerned I find it works well. I have 2, one is completely stock and holster able and the other has a few minor modifications. I added a steel breach and an 18" barrel as well as a shoulder stock. The steel breach allowed me to mount a scope on to the unit. It's surprisingly very accurate. I've head shot a number of grouse with this model to ranges up to 20 yards no problem. I even fed a muskrat a long drink of silence with it last fall after it took a chunk out of my dogs cheek and put the run on my wife.

Nester 08-03-2016 04:58 PM

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/cr...6390p.html#srp




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihD9DeSX3dg

Frank the Thank 08-03-2016 10:45 PM

I look on utube the game getter cartridge, it seem to be too noisy for me...
So I look at the crosman 2240, it seem to be pretty good.
Is anyone know any other air pistol caliber .22? I could not find any...

Stinky Buffalo 08-04-2016 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank the Thank (Post 3293713)
I look on utube the game getter cartridge, it seem to be too noisy for me...
So I look at the crosman 2240, it seem to be pretty good.
Is anyone know any other air pistol caliber .22? I could not find any...

Check out the Weihrauch HW45 or the Webley Alecto (which is rebranded Zoraki hp-01).

Nyksta 08-04-2016 09:13 PM

Chiappa little Badger...

Stinky Coyote 08-04-2016 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo (Post 3293845)
Check out the Weihrauch HW45 or the Webley Alecto (which is rebranded Zoraki hp-01).

This

I went down hw45 route but now the Alecto...it has mad power potential, easy to bring right to the limit in .22 cal with 3-4 strokes, use a chrony, in .177 running heavy pellets 10.3 to 10.5 gr you can run to the limit on 3 and go well over on four

Anyhow, very accurate and powerful...Google away, it is the real deal of air pistol hunting

Stinky Coyote 08-04-2016 11:53 PM

Sadly the thing still weighs over 2 lbs...one can splurge on a pack rifle from prophet river and shoot cci quiet and 40 gr at 700 fps and it only weighs 1lb

Big Thumper 08-05-2016 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote (Post 3294482)
Sadly the thing still weighs over 2 lbs...one can splurge on a pack rifle from prophet river and shoot cci quiet and 40 gr at 700 fps and it only weighs 1lb

A guy should have bought one before dollar fell. :(

Big Grey Wolf 08-05-2016 08:50 AM

When I hunted big game with my 50 caliber hawken black powder I would load a 28 gauge plastic shotgun sleeve with number 6 shot worked like a dam on grouse.

buckbrushoutdoors 08-06-2016 10:43 AM

This is what I use, deadly out to 30'

58thecat 08-06-2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by buckbrushoutdoors (Post 3295413)
This is what I use, deadly out to 30'

.177 or .22?

blgoodbrand1 08-06-2016 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 3295424)
.177 or .22?



I use the same model....in 22 cal


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58thecat 08-07-2016 08:15 AM

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Just bought the .177 cal yesterday, ten yards bang on, punches holes in cans easily, shattered a bottle so it punches hard enough to kill grouse/squirrels etc 10 yards or less for sure.
89 bucks at Canadian tire.

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Redneck 7 08-07-2016 10:10 AM

I use the Walther CP88. Works good. I got a grouse on a branch from around 5-7 yards away. Where I hunt you usually don't see them till you're literally 2' away and I just pull it out of my rubber hunting boots and pop! Easy lunch!

buckbrushoutdoors 08-07-2016 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 3295424)
.177 or .22?

mines .177
flat point pellet smacks them hard. Have to ring the odd neck, I don't mind. does the job. bought a holster for it too.

xxclaro 08-07-2016 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote (Post 3294482)
Sadly the thing still weighs over 2 lbs...one can splurge on a pack rifle from prophet river and shoot cci quiet and 40 gr at 700 fps and it only weighs 1lb

Got a link to that, or know who makes it? Checked their site but nothing comes back under a pack rifle search

grousehunter469 08-07-2016 03:38 PM

i need a air pistol for hunting grouse when I'm hunting bug game what do you guys suggest


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