Renewable company caught using whole logs to make pellets for burning
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-63089348
I was shocked to see that a company, claiming to be an environmentally friendly renewable energy company was burning old growth logs. How is BC… an eco fanatics paradise condoning such use of old growth forests? I now wonder how many more shams are duping investors and governments. They chop down whole trees…drive hundreds of kilometres… use a shines to grind them up… make them into sawdust pellets… then ship to the UK… then burn them. They plant tiny seedlings to make it then renewable. Unfreaking believable. :argue2: |
Don’t they do this all over the world?
Burn trees for power and claim it’s green renewable energy? Biofuel? Pretty sure it was exposed in that micheal Moore documentary |
Yes. They take account of the latest science too. Safe and effective.
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Personally I think it’s a scam when your cutting down the greatest method of removing C02 from the atmosphere. Your cutting them down and burning them to release the same C02 all over again? But now there is less trees to filter it out??
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If they don't pic up there feet and start replanting these forest that are being demolished, then we are going backwards real fast. There behind in replanting like never before.the sooner they pull there finger out of there arrs ,meaning JT and his cronies the sooner we give this planet half a chance . Every schools ,prisons and even the average Joe should have access to a few hundred trees to plant. Taxing folks is stupid as it gets , just plant 5 tree for everyone cut .Save the earth. The stumpage fee money is already given to the government to do this,but it goes to other crap. We all need homes,but we need to live also,so replace and fix what you take out. My partner is trying contact PP and make this a top priority if he wins. Cheers JD |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE Grizz |
Great points, JD848.
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There’s gotta be more to it than that it’s just not economically feasible to cut down a massive log and transport it to sell for Pennies instead of hundreds of dollars.
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Every person has a home with mostly wood products ,so every person should have access to seedlings and replant a few hundred each year. Pay for them if so and make it a tax deduction. Kids at an early age should all be made to replant in order for them to understand that were all in this mess, there future is at risk . Burnt out areas should be salvaged as much as possible, stop all cut permits and head to the burnt out areas. Only so much of a tree is use and 30 percent stays behind in smaller pieces and the top of trees, set up large containers and load that stuff up for chips or whatever it can be used for, but they hire dozers to clean this up in large piles and burn it come winter . Every little bit helps. JD |
Trees either burn one way or the other or they rot and release methane. No big deal, the planet handled it for millions of years.
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I like the seedling idea, JD848. Maybe it could start with us hunters - get a credit towards tags for planting X amount of seedlings.
Kind of run it like the timber harvest permits, except in reverse - tell them where you want to plant, what kind and when. Distribution may be an issue, but hey, it's just logistics... |
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Some companies close down and steal the stumpage money or say they did it and nothing is done . Or the cash goes in trust of certain groups who I will not mention and go figure where that cash goes. There still replanting but with this housing shortage wood is going very fast out the door , so the reforestation companies who do it aren't big enough .If they were behind before this housing boom, then they won't catch up unless they triple the amount of work to replanting. Fires are eating up timber , so there are less trees to cut, but after a fire if it's possible to groom it so it grows proper trees ,then more work in those area's are needed also. JD |
It’s all about trying to get a green government grant and profit from it. If we knew the fraud that went on it would likely make us sick.
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Id rather it not all be replanted because it is pretty much always replanted with spruce, or pine in Alberta. Mono culture forests are not of much benefit to wildlife. Leaving it to reforest naturally is better for wildlife as many species of deciduous trees, plants, berries, shrubs, bushes, etc will grow which are necessary for a balanced forest and healthy wildlife. Slow growing natural regeneration will feed a lot of critters much longer than a fast growing single species replant of all the same age class which in many cases are then sprayed with glyphosate to kill everything else but the commercially desired replanted species.
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Think JD is from another province and things may be done differently. |
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All I can say is I recommend research beyond this article
Timber that is useable for the lumber market is far more valuable as lumber then it is as wood pellets |
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Seems unlikely for Drax to be to blame. Drax doesn't log anything from what I know they simply piggyback off existing sawmills all along the Yellowhead. Questionable logging by the existing sawmills maybe. It's never going to be economically feasible to haul logs to make into pellets. Pellets are byproduct of the entire industry.
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Toured a saw/planner mill just yesterday. Old growth is optimized and left over is blocked and sold to China for finger jointing. Nothing is wasted. Yes, the chips are sold overseas as well, but it’s that or your sawdust pile keeps growing. Some of the larger mills here on the Island have massive chip mounds, but that is older stuff, with newer production going overseas.
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That is why only pine are planted, everything else takes care of itself |
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Yes this is going on and on a larger scale then you think
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...d-pellets.html https://e360.yale.edu/digest/u-s-for...y-report-finds https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wood-pe...ource-critics/ This is how Europe is meeting its net zero targets |
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I worked for a logging outfit in BC in the past that provided the waste for this purpose and I can tell you there is no possible way we were going to send lumber grade logs to a pellet plant lol At least here in Canada this is how it works I have personally been in theses yards many times and seen the material used |
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