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Davey Boy 01-28-2023 10:27 AM

Tracing bullets to stop crime. work or not
 
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...776502339981fe

Can't see this working. Bad guys just use false id's to buy ammo.
What do you think?

elkhunter11 01-28-2023 10:59 AM

Of course it won't work, if thieves can illegally access firearms, they can illegally access ammunition.

jungleboy 01-28-2023 11:00 AM

Another better option is to make criminals pay dearly for their crimes committed with firearms .
Commit a crime with a firearm and go away for a minimum 10 yrs not including time served awaiting trial , second offence 25 yrs no parole
First offence with where a victim is hurt. Automatic 25 yrs

Murder , life no parole ever

We don’t penalize good drivers when bad drivers are bad but we love to penalize law abiding gun owners when criminals commit gun crimes

roper1 01-28-2023 11:03 AM

The conviction rate on almost all crime is low. Add in the apathy of cops, prosecutors & judges might mean unnecessary ammo cost for little to no real world deterrence.

More laws when we don't enforce the current ones seems redundant.

elkhunter11 01-28-2023 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jungleboy (Post 4604932)
Another better option is to make criminals pay dearly for their crimes committed with firearms .
Commit a crime with a firearm and go away for a minimum 10 yrs not including time served awaiting trial , second offence 25 yrs no parole
First offence with where a victim is hurt. Automatic 25 yrs

Murder , life no parole ever

We don’t penalize good drivers when bad drivers are bad but we love to penalize law abiding gun owners when criminals commit gun crimes

And yet just the opposite has happened in Canada, the liberal judges have struck down the mandatory sentences for crimes involving firearms.

silvertip 01-28-2023 11:32 AM

Remember when they wanted your win # on arrows .

How about putting phone # on baseball bats,
so when you get an intruder and defend yourself,

they can call you :angry3:

heretohunt 01-28-2023 01:36 PM

It’s absolutely silly. I think that maybe the author has invested in a company that provides the service.

heretohunt 01-28-2023 01:40 PM

Does he mean bullets as in “bullets” or bullets as in cartridges? Or does he mean to mark the brass. Once most bullets are fired they are unrecognizable, unless they are copper or full metal jacket. Then there is the task of recovering a bullet that is likely to pass through what it hits.

zabbo 01-28-2023 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jungleboy (Post 4604932)
Another better option is to make criminals pay dearly for their crimes committed with firearms .
Commit a crime with a firearm and go away for a minimum 10 yrs not including time served awaiting trial , second offence 25 yrs no parole
First offence with where a victim is hurt. Automatic 25 yrs

Murder , life no parole ever


We don’t penalize good drivers when bad drivers are bad but we love to penalize law abiding gun owners when criminals commit gun crimes

This? Unfortunately, in hug a thug canukistan, any of these ideas amount to cruel and unusual punishment! :mad0100:
One step further would be a long drop with a short rope around the neck!! :thinking-006:

fishnguy 01-28-2023 02:31 PM

Assume it happens and is successful to some degree. My guess is, they’ll likely find rather quickly that them bullets came from south of the border along with the guns that fired them.

Grizzly Adams1 01-28-2023 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heretohunt (Post 4604978)
It’s absolutely silly. I think that maybe the author has invested in a company that provides the service.




I attended a trial some years ago, where a "firearms expert" testified that with modern rifling methods it's very difficult to establish that a bullet came from a certain firearm.

Grizz

mindoutside 01-29-2023 09:45 AM

Assuming this "tasering and micro-stamping a barcode"

Is recoverable, it seems like they want to find out how the bullet gets in possession of the criminal more than tying it to a specific gun.

CaberTosser 01-29-2023 01:44 PM

Any marking would have to be on the tail-end of the bullet to be readable. The logistics would be ludicrous, having multiple boxes registered to you for target practice. They also don’t seem to know about reloading. Imagine having to register boxes of component projectiles to your PAL at the till?

Reloading press & collet-type bullet puller sales would increase substantially. Bullet mold sales would also go through the roof.

As easy as it would be to remove such markings, it would still increase the value of everyone’s unadulterated ammo stockpiles. How many cumulative billions of rounds are in Canadian gun owners collections? I think these gun control daydreamers are under the mistaken impression that ammo expires like fresh produce & the older stuff will all be out of everyone’s inventory in short order. It won’t be.

58thecat 01-29-2023 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Boy (Post 4604919)
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...776502339981fe

Can't see this working. Bad guys just use false id's to buy ammo.
What do you think?

Nope.

Pekan 01-30-2023 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jungleboy (Post 4604932)
Another better option is to make criminals pay dearly for their crimes committed with firearms .
Commit a crime with a firearm and go away for a minimum 10 yrs not including time served awaiting trial , second offence 25 yrs no parole
First offence with where a victim is hurt. Automatic 25 yrs

Murder , life no parole ever

We don’t penalize good drivers when bad drivers are bad but we love to penalize law abiding gun owners when criminals commit gun crimes

Now you're just talking crazy!

The guy who recently shot and killed an Ontario provincial policeman had a previous gun charge and during sentencing for that charge the judge said the criminal was a victim of colonialism! What an absolute steaming pile of horse turd of an excuse for armed robbery!
We're living in backwards land these days.

Pekan 01-30-2023 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Boy (Post 4604919)
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...776502339981fe

Can't see this working. Bad guys just use false id's to buy ammo.
What do you think?

I think it's safe to say that the author Conrad Black is a little out of touch.

6.5 shooter 01-30-2023 09:32 PM

Pull the projectile, file the serial number off, problem solved. They floated this idea about 30 years ago, as stupid now as it was then. Just another socialist attempt to scare people and or calm their fears...


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