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gramps73 01-03-2020 08:30 PM

Broad head
 
my son will be hunting spring bear this coming spring. what would be a good broad head for a youth bow hunter pulling 4o to 45 lbs
thanks

Lefty Bryan 01-03-2020 08:34 PM

Any quality fixed blade will do the trick. Won’t punch through a shoulder blade, but neither does a 60lb bow shooting the same broad head. Try to find the right mix of arrow weight / broad head weight and speed to maximize kinetic energy for a full pass through.


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Lefty-Canuck 01-03-2020 08:36 PM

I would consider a quality fixed, I use Tooth of the Arrow. My spring bear was down and dead in sight, 30 yards away.

LC

gramps73 01-03-2020 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck (Post 4085511)
I would consider a quality fixed, I use Tooth of the Arrow. My spring bear was down and dead in sight, 30 yards away.

LC

never seen that brand before.
they look like a Muzzy

normanrd 01-03-2020 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gramps73 (Post 4085525)
never seen that brand before.
they look like a Muzzy

They are like a muzzy but better. They fly better and are one piece, so they are way more durable.

calgarychef 01-04-2020 09:58 AM

40-45 lbs. I’d be using a 2 blade head- pick anyone you want.
Or a longer profile 3blade like a wensel woodsman. 3 blades are nice for bears as they leak a bit more. In either case give the head a “tanto tip” as long needle tips have the nasty habit of bending over when they hit ribs etc. And get it nice and sharp. Then study the anatomy with him to make sure he understands where to put the arrow. Sounds like a great father son project.

gramps73 01-04-2020 01:26 PM

Thanks you for the tips

KyleSS 01-04-2020 07:35 PM

I have had great success with Black Widow Innovations Broadheads. I shot both the PX2 and the Widowmaker this year. Solid heads that do some damage and fly great.

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Lefty-Canuck 01-04-2020 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gramps73 (Post 4085525)
never seen that brand before.
they look like a Muzzy

If you took a 4 blade slick trick and a G5 Montec and took the best features of both put into one...Tooth of the Arrow is what you get.

LC

heretohunt 01-04-2020 08:02 PM

My very first choice would be any two blade broadhead. Then almost any of the other fixed blades after that.

bitterrootfly 01-04-2020 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck (Post 4086044)
If you took a 4 blade slick trick and a G5 Montec and took the best features of both put into one...Tooth of the Arrow is what you get.

LC

I live my tooth of the arrow heads, wicked one piece construction, great penetration and they fly like field points

freshtinov 01-05-2020 10:10 AM

I agree with the above! Tooth of the arrow, They shoot and group like my field tips. No fuss one piece construction just keep them dry as they are high carbon steel or you will see surface rust start. You could leave a light coat of oil or similar product on them.

calgarychef 01-05-2020 10:23 AM

Tooth of the arrow...those look like they’re bombproof. I’d hesitate to use them with a lighter draw like the OP was mentioning. Tips aren’t too sharp and the angle of the blades is pretty blunt, I’d worry about penetration.

Lefty-Canuck 01-05-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by calgarychef (Post 4086274)
Tooth of the arrow...those look like they’re bombproof. I’d hesitate to use them with a lighter draw like the OP was mentioning. Tips aren’t too sharp and the angle of the blades is pretty blunt, I’d worry about penetration.

My buddies 72 year old mother has killed 3 mule deer, a bear, and two moose with them right at 40lbs, keep the shots reasonable (30ish yards) no issues. Because of the short profile and 1”X1” 4 blade design they are quite forgiving and don’t plane as long as you bow is tuned. I recommend paper tune followed by a bareshaft tune to 20 yards. Helical 4 fletch helps as well.

LC

DiabeticKripple 01-05-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by calgarychef (Post 4086274)
Tooth of the arrow...those look like they’re bombproof. I’d hesitate to use them with a lighter draw like the OP was mentioning. Tips aren’t too sharp and the angle of the blades is pretty blunt, I’d worry about penetration.

Out of the box, they did very good in Born and Raised Outdoors broadhead test.

It came second For penetration, and second overall in the whole test.

https://youtu.be/3APukiqohkE

Lefty-Canuck 01-05-2020 01:45 PM

Here is a group at 100yards TOTA, 15 deg uphill with a slight breeze. This sold me on how well they can shoot, my followup shot on my elk this year was 87 yards and I had full confidence taking it. The first shot at 45yards was fatal, but with elk still on their feet more is better. I have since switched to a 4 fletch helical as well.

https://i.imgur.com/uLKcla9.jpg

LC

Passthru 01-05-2020 05:45 PM

Wow. That’s some good shooting

bitterrootfly 01-05-2020 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck (Post 4086278)
My buddies 72 year old mother has killed 3 mule deer, a bear, and two moose with them right at 40lbs, keep the shots reasonable (30ish yards) no issues. Because of the short profile and 1”X1” 4 blade design they are quite forgiving and don’t plane as long as you bow is tuned. I recommend paper tune followed by a bareshaft tune to 20 yards. Helical 4 fletch helps as well.

LC

Spot on post, I can attest to the helical four fletch being a great addition, with a properly tuned bow they are the most accurate broad head I’ve shot and with my bow tech at 70lbs I have had no problems with penetration, neither has my nephew with his 40lb bow he just kept the shots closer (40 yard max)

GVAL 01-25-2020 10:34 AM

The Qad Exodus could be a good possibility for him to try.


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Schilly97 01-30-2020 01:25 PM

Lots of good options out there I personally shoot montecs and I'm looking to switch to iron wills this year but whatever you do, do not but ozcuts a buddy purchased some this year and what a absolute joke they were all three busted apart on impact and their customer service is horrible

Lefty-Canuck 01-30-2020 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schilly97 (Post 4102306)
Lots of good options out there I personally shoot montecs and I'm looking to switch to iron wills this year but whatever you do, do not but ozcuts a buddy purchased some this year and what a absolute joke they were all three busted apart on impact and their customer service is horrible

A buddy used ironwills on a moose and they took a weird deflection in the ribs and didn’t enter the chest cavity. Could have been a one of, but it basically rode the ribs on the outside of the chest cavity.

LC

kw12 01-30-2020 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schilly97 (Post 4102306)
Lots of good options out there I personally shoot montecs and I'm looking to switch to iron wills this year but whatever you do, do not but ozcuts a buddy purchased some this year and what a absolute joke they were all three busted apart on impact and their customer service is horrible

My brother shoots ozcuts and has had nothing but awesome things to say about them. Shot 2 deer and a bear with the same head. Nothing wrong with it.

Schilly97 01-30-2020 04:13 PM

Yeah and I know of a few other people who shoot them and have said nothing but good about them. Maybe just a bad batch but after my friend being ignored by customer service and the owner of the company kinda put a bad taste in my mouth which is unfortunate because I really like their designs and the fact they are a solid one piece but after seeing how hitting a white tail shoulder blade destroyed idk.

DMS1 01-30-2020 05:27 PM

I have had great lunch with slick trick and slick trick grizz cut on contact.

kw12 01-31-2020 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schilly97 (Post 4102406)
Yeah and I know of a few other people who shoot them and have said nothing but good about them. Maybe just a bad batch but after my friend being ignored by customer service and the owner of the company kinda put a bad taste in my mouth which is unfortunate because I really like their designs and the fact they are a solid one piece but after seeing how hitting a white tail shoulder blade destroyed idk.

Oh for sure would put a bad taste in anyone’s mouth. He hasn’t had to deal with the customer service yet so I guess we will see.

DMS1 02-02-2020 07:56 AM

I checked out the ozcuts, they definitely look tough! I do not like 2 blade broadheads personally though.

BuckCuller 02-02-2020 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck (Post 4086363)
Here is a group at 100yards TOTA, 15 deg uphill with a slight breeze. This sold me on how well they can shoot, my followup shot on my elk this year was 87 yards and I had full confidence taking it. The first shot at 45yards was fatal, but with elk still on their feet more is better. I have since switched to a 4 fletch helical as well.

https://i.imgur.com/uLKcla9.jpg

LC

Where did you buy your 365 target from?

Lefty-Canuck 02-02-2020 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckCuller (Post 4104074)
Where did you buy your 365 target from?

I actually won in a long bomb competition it at a shoot a few years back. I shoot broadheads into it and it holds up pretty good.

LC

gramps73 02-02-2020 05:01 PM

Lefty, what are you pulling for draw weight?
more for me not my son
thanks

Lefty-Canuck 02-02-2020 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramps73 (Post 4104296)
Lefty, what are you pulling for draw weight?
more for me not my son
thanks

I hunt at 70lbs but my buddies mom hunts at 40lbs and she has passed through moose at 30 yards with the broadheads I use.

LC


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