2015 Toyota Tundra 4wd
 

Good - Bad or ????????
Have a opportunity to pick up a real clean one owner 2015 Tundra 4wd .
My old 2003 F250SD V-10 starting to show its age .
Fire away .

It’s great! But depends what your needs are.

Open diffs on pretty much all of them.

Least carrying capacity of all pickups in its class. (To my knowledge)

Your old v10 is probably more fuel efficient. :scared:

Reputation for reliability.

No cylinder deactivation. :sHa_shakeshout:

Put it this way, if you don’t buy it I might. As long as it’s a crew cab with a 5.7. Quite possibly the most reliable 1/2 ton made in the last 20 years. The only thing I’ve ever heard going wrong is brakes needing to be done more frequently when guys treat them like a 1 ton diesel and pull a heavy trailer continuously. Every other 1/2 ton would be a smoking pile of broken parts doing that, so it’s not much of a problem.

Wish I had upgraded before they eco-humped their trucks.

Probably the most reliable 1/2 ton made in this century. No locking differentials, and not easy on fuel, but if are okay with that, just do regular services and drive it. I had a 2007 for 12 years, and replaced a battery, and did the front brakes.

I currently drive a 2013, pig on gas, that's it, great truck, would buy it again in a heartbeat

Seems like everyone is saying the same thing. I’ll chime in - I’ve got a 2012 tundra with the 5.7. When i bought it in 2013, i got it as a smoking hail storm deal.
It’s got 475,000km on it. Regular oil changes, brakes, maintenance, and that’s it. Still runs strong, is definitely a pig on gas compared to my f-150 work truck, but I’d buy another tundra before anything else… though if anything goes wrong on my truck, I’d still rather put 10 grand into fixing it instead of spending 85k on a new one

Not a Tacoma or Tundra but I have a 2010 FJ that I've owned since new and other than maintenance, I've replaced battery, front brakes and rear shocks. I can't say that about the Fords or Dodge I've owned.

Shouldn't this thread be in GENERAL DISCUSSION ?
 

It's a Toyota pickup... :snapoutofit:

Less capable than some 1/2 tons, but likely the most reliable.

:happy0034:

My brother inlaw has a 15 4 door tundra he had lockers installed and good 31” tires that truck is impressive. I thought about selling my runner for one but the wife will never part with the runner.

I have owned 12 toyotas. Pigs on fuel. No maintenance other than basics. Amazing reliability. But the fuel is crayyyyyzeeee

Currently in a lexus wife and duramax myself because of free fuel at work.


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2015 Toyota Tundra 4wd
 

We have a 2014. Biggest complaint is the cam tower/timing cover leak, which Is a FIPK install fail, but Toyota won’t cover the repair bill.

There is a notice on the lifter tick, the service techs will be looking for this when servicing the truck. Not sure what the long-term issues around that are, but just something be aware of.

Brake rotors do tend to warp prematurely due to an issue with binding calipers. Keeping the calipers maintained helps to prevent that.

It has a microscopic tank (compared to modern trucks). So when towing, you will be making a lot of refueling stops. I think the fuel consumption is relatively normal for the vehicle that it is.

It’s very reliable, and quite capable off road even without locking diffs. Nice and roomy, lots of power when you need it.

I would like a better payload though.

I don’t know why there’s a lot of “it’s poor on gas” comments. My 2015 Tundra 5.7L gets 11.5L per 100kms combined city and highway.

For a big truck with a big V8, that’s really good! No hemi, Ford, or GM that I know of gets anywhere near that kind of gas mileage.

https://i.postimg.cc/4xLmDjqT/20211016-131405.jpg

This has pretty much been bullet proof. Regular wearing items like brakes, belts, and tires aside, it’s only needed a water pump, a pulley, and an alternator in 200,000 kilometres. Say what you will as I’ve owned everything out there, this Tundra is the best quality and most reliable truck I’ve ever owned.

those are great numbers! I have the same engine but the TRD package and slightly larger tires and last time I checked I was getting like 16!

You are right, the tank size is an issue for me as well, I have to bring spare fuel most times I go in the bush

With the price of petrol, I drive it with a light right foot. As with everything in life, you get out of it what you put into it. Wanna drive like an idiot? Then you’ll get really poor fuel economy.

Not say’n you drive like that.:)

I do not believe a word of this but am extremely happy for your fuel economy. A v6 4 runner would get close to that mileage. I have had a 2012, 2018 2020 and a 2021 trd pro. None of them came anywhere near 10. 15 yes.

So lets get serious. Dont set the guy up for great fuel economy. He will be sad.

16l/100km over the last 3 years.
 

I keep very good track of my mileage in an app.

The mileage display on the truck is reasonably accurate compared to the app maybe 10% out max occasionally.

16 Crewmax Limited. Factory everything. 5.7l
20” wheels
Hard tonneau cover
Only “mod” is K&N filter.
Tire pressures always correct
Fuel from Costco almost exclusively.

Probably 1/3 highway and 2/3 city.
I am very, very gentle with my driving.

Might do 105 on the hwy.
Almost never speed in city.
Not hard on the throttle to get moving.
Almost never let it idle.
Use cruise control lots.

Winter can be super hard on fuel. As low as 20l/100 on the display between fuel ups but I do lots of short trips in winter.

Hwy trip lowest on the display 12l/100 between fuel ups.

144liter tank gives me lots of range.

Knew it would be thirsty.
Never been in the shop.
Zero repair costs.
150k km

Had a guy try to buy it from me today in a parking lot. He was not surprised when I told him what I would sell it for.

It is still in my garage.

Well, I’m sorry you don’t believe me. Here’s the proof…

https://i.postimg.cc/xdTR0r6j/IMG-2597.jpg

Sorry, it’s not the 11.5L/100kms I posted earlier. But it’s darn close.

I’m not saying the Tundra’s 5.7L is a Corolla. I’m just saying with prudent driving techniques, this is what you can expect. My driving consists of 60 to 65 percent highway and the rest city.

And btw, with the temperatures warming up, the mileage has gotten better than in winter. When it’s below -10c, I can expect around 13.5L/100kms.

This is a big topic where YMMV really applies.

I had my Tundra 12 years, the best mileage that I ever saw, where I hand calculated to match the computer, was 12l/100, and that was for one stretch at 100km/hr, behind an RCMP cruiser that led a lineup of probably 50 vehicles by the time we got to Fort McMurray. Normal summer fuel mileage was 13-13.5 at 110km/hr, and I drive quite conservative , when driving a pickup. Combined highway city, was more like 14-14.5 l/100. And that is all season tires and no lift kit, or oversized tires. On the other hand, my F150 has done 10.2 l/100 for 500km at 120km/hr, and combined averages around 11-11.5. If someone claims those numbers out of a 5.7Tundra, I would be questioning the computer.

Thanks for all the info and replys .
Yes everyone said they love there fuel , but my 03 F250 V-10 the best i ever got was 18.5L/100km on the highway . Most of the time it 24-26l/100km.
In town and off road it will drop to 28-31 l/100km . My F250 is a super cab short box and 110l fuel tank. Not great range .
Hopefully this deal will go through and will be driving a Tundra in the very near future .

Im going to look at 2017 double cab limited on Tuesday. I would like a shiny new one but no way im paying them prices.

It's only recently, that you can even walk into a dealership that has inventory of the new Tundra in stock. The new engine is much better on fuel, more low end power, and the rest of the truck is improved, with locking differential and better suspension.

The best mileage I would get is around 14.5 l/100 if I'm driving conservatively. Winter driving and idling/warming up etc. it will average around 17+ l/100. I don't stomp on it at traffic lights etc.

It's a stock SR5 Crewmax, with Duratrac tires, no lift or other mods (yet). :D

Good stuff. I do that as well!

I looked into getting the aftermarket larger tank, but I didn't like the fact that I would lose clearance as a result. I do take ours off-road, so that's a concern.

I agree. These guys calling a Toyota pig on fuel i just I can't understand it. I guess compared to a modern small car. My wife's toy with 33" tires a 5.7 hemi she I gets 16 L per hundred km which considering its all gravel roads and winter driving. That's crazy good on gas for a gas truck that size under those conditions.
These new trucks are great on gas its just that we are paying over $8 a gallon. That's even more expensive than milk! Its crazy what we are paying for fuel and it shouldn't be.
When I was trucking years ago I would always burn atleast 175 gallons a day so that's about 800 liters a day. No wonder groceries coast so much. Even a carbureted 70s pick up truck if you got 8 miles to the gallon which is actually good fuel mileage at today's fuel prices that's what $60 to drive 100km.

So talking gas mileage: I took the 2021 2500 for a long road trip, not pulling a trailer, but well loaded with gear and travel stuff, it scaled at 9,000 LBs. I already knew my 2021 2500 rode and handled better than my 1996 2500. Driving it on U.S. interstates at 85-90 mph made it clear just how much better it is than the old pickup. My 1996, I limited speed to 70-75, even on really good road. It just didn't hold the road well enough to go faster.

What was also interesting is that cruising speed had very little effect on gas mileage, just like it did with my V10, except the 6.4 makes equal power and gets at least 60% better overall gas mileage. Whether I was doing 65 or 85, mileage was about the same. What did have a HUGE affect is a head wind. It could easily knock off 5-7 MPG. Off road in 4 Low it got the worst mileage at 13 but one stint on the freeway, with a 60-70 mph head wind, came matched that.

Gas was from 30 to 60 cents a litre cheaper in the States, after exchange. Hotels and restaurant food were about the same, once exchange was factored in. Grocery store food was about 20% cheaper, and Liquor was 50% cheaper, all after exchange was factored in.

Here is the fill record, and conditions for the trip. The overall roll up data for April is below

https://www.ramforum.com/attachments...-1-jpg.541894/


Here are the updated lifetime stats on the pickup. To me this clearly illustrates the futility of the "What is your gas mileage" question so often posted here. Driving conditions and driver can dramatically alter mileage from one fill to another, let along overall.

https://www.ramforum.com/attachments...-1-jpg.541895/

Descriptions of the two pickups.

2021 2500 Laramie 4x4 Crew Cab w/ 8' bed, 6.4 Hemi, Flame Red, black/Light Mountain Brown Interior. 33" Duratrac 275-70R-18. Level 2 Equip Group, Protection Group, Factory Power Boards, 3:73 Gears, Anti-Spin Rear Diff, LED Bed Lighting, 5th Wheel, Bed Protection, Snow Plow and Off Road Packages. 16,500 LB Warn winch in a Warn Transformer 4 Carrier, Range Rider Vista Canopy. Scale weight with one occupant 8,200 Lbs.


1996 2500 Long bed Club Cab V10 SLT. bought new and remains bone stock with Range Rider Vista Canopy and 9,000 LB Warn Winch.

By comparison, new or old Tundra is pretty fuel efficient. I bought exactly what I wanted in both pickups, factory ordered both to get exactly the options and performance I wanted. Fuel mileage wasn't really a consideration. In the overall scheme of ownership costs, fuel doesn't match the cost of depreciation, and other operating costs, at least over the first 5 years. Per the rollup, fuel has been almost 9 grand over almost 3 years, depreciation would be easily double that. Now if my pickup was my daily driver that might change a bit, but since it isn't I can largely ignore fuel consumption.

The 5.7 Hemi is a fuel pig compared to a new Ford or Toyota twin turbo V6. And it makes much less torque, and is no more reliable. That is why I never even considered Ram, when I was shopping for a new 1/2 ton

I think my ‘07 Tundra is good, fuel economy-wise. 5.7L, SR5 4wd extended cab, 6.5’ box. No lift. Stock wheels and tire size. Tonneau cover.

With no big headwind, 2 passengers and a light load, at 110kmh, it will do 12.4l/100km regularly. Best I ever did was 10L/100km over an 80km trip at 100 kmh, with no wind or significant hills. That was exceptional.

It’s got gobs of pull and sounds wonderful when called upon. Hard to beat the sound of a big displacement v8!

Only regular maintenance since new, but still has only 230K on the odometer. Just did the brakes last year; first time since new. Truck still looks new too.

I think I want a smaller truck, but its hard to imagine I’ll find another truck as reliable…

Interesting. Never had anything to do with a toyota, never even touched one until the GF got a new Tacoma last year for a company truck. Think it's a '22, same year as her dodge 1/2 ton with a hemi. Dodge is loaded to the nuts, toyota is close. Fuel mileage is the same in both trucks and that's where the similarities end. Dodge has more power than needed in a 1/2 ton. Toyota is very underwhelming in power. Creature comforts and head and shoulders above in the dodge. Pretty sure the toyota was built for someone with a 32" inseam or less. Horribly uncomfortable for me. I've drove it and I can hardly get out of it, gotta twist leg sideways just to get it under the steering wheel.
After being around that tacoma owning one would never cross my mind.

No idea what the tundras are like, maybe they are a better truck?
I've got a 3/4 ton with a hemi here as well. Has 35's on it and getting 14-15 L/100 km and as an added bonus it pulls a 12000 lb holiday trailer around fairly handily (fuel mileage drops considerbly of course) pretty good for a gasser. Guessing the tundra isn't doing any of that so not sure where the "fuel pig" statement comes from

I purchased a 2007 tundra new in 2007 and still own it. It has been pretty much bullet proof. Done the normal wear maintenance on it. I've done the timing belt and water pump twice on it. The water pump was preventative...just replaced at the same time as the timing belt. It now has 466,000+km on it. I got as good as 20 mpg in its early life but now does 14 mpg on average . Has the smaller v8 4.6ltr engine. Full 8 foot box so its not a grocery getter. Is a doublecab, so only has seating for 5 persons. I just replaced it with a 2024 silverado crew cab so I can haul my family but would have purchased another tundra if I could have found a 6 seat cab. It's been a great truck but didn't fit my family any more. Up to 2021 they actually had the option of a front bench seat but finding a used one without a lot of miles was like looking for hens teeth.