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i love fishing 10-12-2017 07:00 PM

Tiger trout
 
Is tiger trout coming to southern Alberta?
Moonshine is now stocked with Tiger Trout.

huntsfurfish 10-12-2017 07:10 PM

Bet they will.

bucksman 10-13-2017 02:45 PM

I never saw any tiger trout on the 2017 stocking report

RavYak 10-14-2017 12:36 PM

Probably once they get the legal bs changed and they are recognised as a species etc.

mgvande 10-14-2017 04:30 PM

Are Tiger trout sterile?

Deep 10-14-2017 05:59 PM

yes

johnny2 10-14-2017 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bucksman (Post 3643068)
I never saw any tiger trout on the 2017 stocking report

Sept 2017 8,000 more Tigers stocked in 4 lakes. My Wild Alberta stocking lists.

millsboy79 10-15-2017 10:06 AM

So southern Alberta gets the shaft again.

TROLLER 10-15-2017 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by millsboy79 (Post 3644145)
So southern Alberta gets the shaft again.

Don't see it as a big deal, the "fishermen" will keep the small tigers anyway so the wish and hope of them growing to size is just not in the cards. At least not yet anyway.

tallieho 10-15-2017 11:04 AM

Until fishries gets there **** together,it will continue to be a slaughter.
Contact your MLA let them no your thoughts !!:angry3:

RavYak 10-15-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tallieho (Post 3644190)
Until fishries gets there **** together,it will continue to be a slaughter.
Contact your MLA let them no your thoughts !!:angry3:

I was told by someone with inside information that supposedly the proper regulations should be in place next year.

I guess the ineptitude in this case is due to our provincial government only updating the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years. Not sure why that is the case(if the federal legislation only allows them to do it every 5 years, if our government has decided they can only be bothered to do it every 5 years or what) but it obviously should be changed so if you are going to speak with your MLA ask them why the provincial government only updates the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years and tell them that it needs to be changed so fisheries can do their job properly and update the Act when needed.

Mr Flyguy 10-15-2017 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TROLLER (Post 3644178)
Don't see it as a big deal, the "fishermen" will keep the small tigers anyway so the wish and hope of them growing to size is just not in the cards. At least not yet anyway.

The "slaughter" of little tigers at Black Nugget (Tofield) is an example.

wind drift 10-15-2017 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RavYak (Post 3644394)
I was told by someone with inside information that supposedly the proper regulations should be in place next year.

I guess the ineptitude in this case is due to our provincial government only updating the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years. Not sure why that is the case(if the federal legislation only allows them to do it every 5 years, if our government has decided they can only be bothered to do it every 5 years or what) but it obviously should be changed so if you are going to speak with your MLA ask them why the provincial government only updates the Alberta Fisheries Act every 5 years and tell them that it needs to be changed so fisheries can do their job properly and update the Act when needed.

It’s been explained ad nauseuem already...it a a federal regulation. Canada has to do the amendment. Alberta can ask, but there’s a queue...a legislative waiting room, so to speak. Interestingly, no province can specifically regulate tiger trout yet. Manitoba is faking it. Saskatchewan worded their regs differently (all stocked trout) back in the day, so it’s not an issue. Alberta is being honest. If you want to point at ineptitude, ask DFO what their issue is with recognizing the tiger trout hybrid, when they have recognized splake for decades.

RavYak 10-15-2017 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wind drift (Post 3644578)
It’s been explained ad nauseuem already...it a a federal regulation. Canada has to do the amendment. Alberta can ask, but there’s a queue...a legislative waiting room, so to speak. Interestingly, no province can specifically regulate tiger trout yet. Manitoba is faking it. Saskatchewan worded their regs differently (all stocked trout) back in the day, so it’s not an issue. Alberta is being honest. If you want to point at ineptitude, ask DFO what their issue is with recognizing the tiger trout hybrid, when they have recognized splake for decades.

The individual who I was speaking with works for AEP and he is the one that told me the provincial government makes changes every 5 years. Why it is 5 years or how exactly it works I do not know but he made it clear our province makes the changes and it just hasn't happened yet because the last change happened just before the tiger trout were stocked. They did ask the feds to make the change since they wanted it to happen before the next 5 year change but the feds haven't been bothered to do it at least not yet.

It is easy to just blame the feds but for some reason we have this crappy system while other provinces do not. Time for our provincial government to step up and fix the system by creating provincial legislation and reducing the federal legislation to only what it needs to be. For an example of a better system dig into the way SK is set up, much better and they make changes every year and don't run into ridiculous cases and excuses like this tiger trout fiasco and the barbless hooks situation etc.

huntsfurfish 10-15-2017 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wind drift (Post 3644578)
It’s been explained ad nauseuem already...it a a federal regulation. Canada has to do the amendment. Alberta can ask, but there’s a queue...a legislative waiting room, so to speak. Interestingly, no province can specifically regulate tiger trout yet. Manitoba is faking it. Saskatchewan worded their regs differently (all stocked trout) back in the day, so it’s not an issue. Alberta is being honest. If you want to point at ineptitude, ask DFO what their issue is with recognizing the tiger trout hybrid, when they have recognized splake for decades.

Agree. They will fix it and restock.

But with all the whining about this. Starting to think that they should just stick to existing fish species. And work on native species in particular. Then they can really whine.

wind drift 10-16-2017 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RavYak (Post 3644664)
The individual who I was speaking with works for AEP and he is the one that told me the provincial government makes changes every 5 years. Why it is 5 years or how exactly it works I do not know but he made it clear our province makes the changes and it just hasn't happened yet because the last change happened just before the tiger trout were stocked. They did ask the feds to make the change since they wanted it to happen before the next 5 year change but the feds haven't been bothered to do it at least not yet.

It is easy to just blame the feds but for some reason we have this crappy system while other provinces do not. Time for our provincial government to step up and fix the system by creating provincial legislation and reducing the federal legislation to only what it needs to be. For an example of a better system dig into the way SK is set up, much better and they make changes every year and don't run into ridiculous cases and excuses like this tiger trout fiasco and the barbless hooks situation etc.

You were misinformed.

RavYak 10-16-2017 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wind drift (Post 3644721)
You were misinformed.

Then the people that work for AEP don't even know how their system works.

No wonder it is such a mess...

Sundancefisher 10-19-2017 12:50 PM

I can't find any information on the net regarding longevity of tiger trout. Can anyone else find anything?

Brook trout can live to 6 years
Brown trout can live to 20 years

Tiger trout can live to ?? years.

Flieguy 10-19-2017 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher (Post 3647340)
I can't find any information on the net regarding longevity of tiger trout. Can anyone else find anything?

Brook trout can live to 6 years
Brown trout can live to 20 years

Tiger trout can live to ?? years.

"Generally 5 to 6 years" According to this book

https://books.google.ca/books?id=tbN...fespan&f=false

Flieguy 10-19-2017 01:04 PM

Kind of hoping they take the tiger trout route with Pine Coulee Reservoir since they've given up on the walleye

huntsfurfish 10-19-2017 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Flieguy (Post 3647353)
Kind of hoping they take the tiger trout route with Pine Coulee Reservoir since they've given up on the walleye

Agree, would be nice to see tigers in the south. Might be a good place for them.

i love fishing 10-22-2017 09:06 PM

pcr is actually one of the best lakes for them


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