Justin Trudeau to remove senators from Liberal caucus
 

Smart move. Will Harper follow suit?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/just...ucus-1.2515273

Didn't think he had the balls to do anything.

That's quite the gambit. Bet the PMO are doing back flips coming up with a cogent response.

Trashcan the whole works and let us elect them. Or toss the entire Senate.

That way the Party isn't on the hotseat when one of these criminals gets caught.

Senate Reform
 

Time for the senate to be reformed so it can do its job. It should be the regional check and balance to the population based house. There should be 4 Senators per province and 1 per territory. They should be elected and sit for a term of 4 or 8 years.

How's he going to get any legislation passed without any senators? :confused:

The idea is that the House of Commons will have to put forward legislation that the independent Senate believes is in the best interest of Canadians.

Didn't think I would ever, ever, EVER say this, "Good job Justin!"

No kidding eh. Feels kinda funny saying those words. Like the Fonz saying sorry.

He's getting my vote in the next election!! About time we got a leader with some chutzpah. :)

He won't be getting my vote, but with that said it's nice to see him boot those useless freeloaders

Dont like guns or what?

I agree that the Senate should be elected with terms.
I don't agree with getting rid of the senate. They are there to throw the brakes on questionable laws and what not.

Can you imagine where we would be if the Cretien liberals had not had the senate to slow them down? You would have exactly what we have here in Alberta right now. A majority who think they have the right to rule as they see fit and do not have to answer to anyone. Draconian bills that keep eroding our rights and priveleges because they can pass this stuff behind closed doors with zero opposition. "Democratic dictatorship"

Gaak!!
 

I just choked on my coffee!


Would someone slap this man and make everything normal again?


sorry... he's got too many old school handlers working for him.

Gun registry here we come.

There is more to life than firearms. That being said, I don't think that he will try anytime soon to put the long gun registry back in place - too expensive and will generate too much bad press.

I'm sure he's got some old Liberal boys coaching him, but the party is changing. After Ignatieff driving them into the ground last election I have to imagine there's been a bit of a shakeup in the Liberal ranks. Not to say I support Trudeau, but it's good to see at least one party trying to come up with new ideas.

What's your point? Do you like speaking mandarin?

Lead by example is a common term. How can anyone claim that the senate [as it stands] is non partisan when senators sit on your caucus? It makes a mockery of the entire upper house. About time a leader had the stones to make things right...and you notice Harper doing anything with the senate other than covering up for his pets?

The problem with an elected senate is that once again we end up with partisans who are supposed to be the objective stop check for runaway government and prevent bad legislation.

The other day I heard a suggestion on the radio that I think has merit.

Pick them from a pool of honourable citisens of every walk of life...for instance Order of Canada recipients.

I like that idea.
The senate is important but it will never function as intended if we don't eliminate the politics from those positions.

I believe that he already stated that he had no intent to revisit the LGR anyway.

I think the real question that should be raised by this is:

Why has Harper done NOTHING to work towards reforming the Senate? Pretty shameful to get beat to the punch by your #1 political opponent on one of your key campaigning items.

In ancient Greece the senate was picked randomly from all citizens to attempt a true representation of the people.

That is exactly the point, Harper has spent more time and effort on every issue on the planet than he has on Canadian issues. He sends the Palestinian authority millions in foreign aide and closes down veterans offices and coast guard stations what's with that? What is important to Harper and his cronies anyways?????? Falling dollar perhaps?

If it`s not population based then why not give the territories 4 each as well?

Good idea....equality is important in Canada. :thinking-006:

Why not do the same here?
All we need to do is set up some basic criteria and then put oin place some job security for those that serve.

Make it a 2 year term and a once in a lifetime poition.

Like a giant jury selection.

He also said he believes in gun control.Point bieng,he is a Liberal,Therefore he lies.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

On the surface I like this idea. Unfortunately I think that calling them Independent is merely fluff as long as Senators are appointed to the Senate. No matter who is elected, they will chose Senators who they think will support their party. If Justin gets elected do you think that he'll appoint Independent Senators with Conservative views (loyalties) or Liberal ones. A leopard can't change it's spots no matter what you call it.

Hey, the NDP took the word socialist out but that didn't make them any less socialist just by doing that. :)

Finally Trudeau the second does something I can truly respect. If he keeps this up, he may eventually gain some credibility.

He should follow through on his principles in the House of Commons too. ;)

Nice window dressing, but in reality it only means 32 Liberal senators won't be attending weekly caucus meetings.......

Sounds like a better cost saving method than closing veterans affairs offices....