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Sputnik 05-10-2014 08:40 PM

Scat Question
 
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Ok, scatologists.....what is it?

Austin 05-10-2014 08:48 PM

An undigested Samsung cell phone?

Brian Bildson 05-10-2014 08:49 PM

Black Bear - 3 years old male, likes females who enjoy an early morning stroll before dining on clover. If I could see it closer I could tell if he voted conservative or wildrose.

Sputnik 05-10-2014 09:25 PM

Cell phone
 
Good answer Austin....look a little further east....

Grizzly Adams 05-10-2014 10:26 PM

Grizzly bear scat after eating a distracted cell phone user ?

Grizz

Sputnik 05-10-2014 10:46 PM

Sigh
 
I knew I should have cropped out the phone.......but left it in for scale comparison....what was I thinking!

Iskra 05-10-2014 10:59 PM

Next time put down an I phone or Galaxy so we have better idea as far as size goes. If you have owned a smart phone, the phone would answer your question. :sHa_shakeshout:

Sputnik 05-10-2014 11:20 PM

Phone
 
A friend sent me the picture. He owns an acreage NW of Calgary and is concerned a bear has moved in on his property. He wants to do some work in the area and was asking the question.

I thought it was coyote until he sent the picture with the phone, now I'm not sure. I have a fair amount of hunting experience and am familiar with deer, moose, elk and sheep scat etc. But not so much the predators as I have never targeted them, I'm more familiar with tracks than scat. I don't want to panic him if it is coyote or wolf, but want to caution him if it is bear scat.

Loving the jokes (really I am), but if anyone can help out here that would be nice so I can set his mind at ease, or suggest he carry bear spray or a shotgun with him into the further reaches of his property.

elkdump 05-10-2014 11:56 PM

to me, it looks like something gave birth to a politician ,,,,

sorry I cant help you out if it is a Conservative or a Liberal,,,

but I am very sure it is a politician nevertheless !

KegRiver 05-11-2014 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sputnik (Post 2431124)
A friend sent me the picture. He owns an acreage NW of Calgary and is concerned a bear has moved in on his property. He wants to do some work in the area and was asking the question.

I thought it was coyote until he sent the picture with the phone, now I'm not sure. I have a fair amount of hunting experience and am familiar with deer, moose, elk and sheep scat etc. But not so much the predators as I have never targeted them, I'm more familiar with tracks than scat. I don't want to panic him if it is coyote or wolf, but want to caution him if it is bear scat.

Loving the jokes (really I am), but if anyone can help out here that would be nice so I can set his mind at ease, or suggest he carry bear spray or a shotgun with him into the further reaches of his property.


99% it's a canine, beyond that it's anyone's guess.

DUKE-1 05-11-2014 07:27 AM

Its canine.

Pudelpointer 05-11-2014 07:43 AM

Large coyote, small wolf, doesn't look like bear at all, and definitely not grizz.

220swifty 05-11-2014 09:32 AM

How did it taste?

Knot Rite 05-11-2014 09:48 AM

Tough call without breaking it apart to see its consistency if it had any hair/berries, ect. but with my scatology experience my guess would be a coyote.

Bobby

Geezle 05-11-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 220swifty (Post 2431287)
How did it taste?

http://youtu.be/eY7ZX6ngOSs

Austin 05-11-2014 11:04 AM

Lol. My guess is coyote,,, perhaps even a pair. I've witnessed a family pair use the same spot, sniff poop, sniff poop. Looks like a well fed coyote or a pair to me.

Flieguy 05-11-2014 11:05 AM

I vote 'yote

Sputnik 05-11-2014 11:17 AM

Scat origin
 
Thanks all for the comments.

I mentioned the possibility of wolf to my friend and he just confirmed there has been wolf sightings in the area on the next property over recently.

Mystery solved!

Cheers :happy0180:

M4verick 05-11-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pudelpointer (Post 2431207)
Large coyote, small wolf, doesn't look like bear at all, and definitely not grizz.

x2

M4verick 05-11-2014 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by M4verick (Post 2431394)
x2

The size of the scat os too big for Coyote...unless it was a big coyote. RO a coywolf. But apparently theres no coywolfs out here yet. Thats a discussion for another thread, another day.

Jezter 05-11-2014 12:37 PM

Like Brian said its likely a bear. I agree.

Kokanee9 05-11-2014 12:59 PM

Bear leaves more of a round pie shaped pile than the one shown. There wouldn't be any distinct hard packed sausage shapes.

Definitely canine as Keg first said.

Jezter 05-11-2014 01:04 PM

That's actually incorrect. The only time they leave a soft pile is very early in the spring when they've come out of hibernation. They have scat tubular like that is similiar to humans.

Do a google image search for bear scat and see.

I also am a beekeeper and I see bear scat all the time.

Grizzly Adams 05-11-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kokanee9 (Post 2431442)
Bear leaves more of a round pie shaped pile than the one shown. There wouldn't be any distinct hard packed sausage shapes.

Definitely canine as Keg first said.

This time of year, maybe not. Pickins are poor and low moisture content make for hard turds.

Grizz

Brian Bildson 05-11-2014 08:30 PM

Wow - canids really?

Bear scat, just like yours, comes in all shapes and forms. It's not berry, or the runs-season yet gentlemen. I'm sticking with bear or sasquatch, as I haven't seen any of that yet to compare.

Big Red 250 05-11-2014 10:01 PM

I would think if it was wolf or coyote there would be a fair amount of hair in it. I'm going with bear.

KegRiver 05-11-2014 10:42 PM

Bear do indeed leave scat similar in form, but bears are much larger animals and leave proportionally larger scat. Very close to or larger then human scat. I believe this scat is too small to be bear scat.

Also, bears do not digest a lot of things very well. Notably seeds, some plant matter and meats.
These scat appear to be from a animal based diet such as a Coyote would likely have. Actually it looks to me to be a mouse diet. They also appear quiet hard. A bear eating meat should have soft stools not hard. By soft I don't mean loose such as what one sees when they are eating berries, but more like the consistency of mashed potatoes.
Based on size and apparent hardness, the dark coloration indicating a possible flesh based diet and the size I think it has to be a canine rather then a bear.

Last but not least, Coyote would be the most likely culprit due to populations distribution and density.

pickrel pat 05-11-2014 11:28 PM

Big gay male coyote.

220swifty 05-11-2014 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Geezle (Post 2431340)

Well played.

Did YouTube run a Metamucil ad in front of it for you too?

Kokanee9 05-12-2014 01:48 AM

Since the bears came out 6 weeks ago, I haven't seen anything hard. Only what I described.

Perhaps in others areas of the province, this may not be the case.


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