False Alarm: Missile Inbound to Hawaii
Definitely an interesting, yet scary, situation. Seems like the employee who allegedly pushed the wrong button might be in a pot of hot water!
I'm not sure I believe there is one single button for sending this alarm out, either... I'd imagine there is quite a protocol/system to send out such an alert. What I found very interesting was all of the people (in comments under various Facebook Posts) that were present on the island, saying they just carried on as usual, and accepted the fact that if it was their time to go, it was their time to go. http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/politi...arm/index.html |
Too soon?
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This would explain it.
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I'm still perplexed as to why people can't post the text of the article.:angry3:
CNN CBC I won't open any of their links. Why give them traffic when all they are is puppets for the left leaning? |
Glad the person responsible doesn’t have trumps big red button on their desk....
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Sometimes you need to lean to the left, when you have fallen over to the right.
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Loving the interviews of the 'suffering' tourists. OMG! Something didn't happen and you had a meltdown and are so happy to return to Canada. :rolleyes:
Meanwhile they book their next holiday to Mexico for 'safety reasons' because of how dangerous Hawaii is and they get murdered. A: NK's missiles will be of unknown accuracy/reliability. Quite likely to crash into the ocean even without countermeasures. B: The USA has some pretty sweet defensive countermeasure capabilities and with the base in Guam has at least two lines of defense, the second being whatever vessels are at Pearl Harbor itself or patrolling nearby. I would imagine the base would also have fixed air defenses, they've had 77 years to prepare and upgrade those since the last time around. Maybe there will be a seat sale to Hawaii and some of us can cash in on the deals available. Hey, it beats a backpacking trip to Afghanistan and the subsequent visit with our own PM! |
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Trump had it installed on his golf cart with a backup app on his phone. When all you do is golf and tweet these important items need to be handy. "when I'm elected president I won't be spending all of my time on the golf course like Barack Obama did....and if I DO and CNN reports on it...It'll be fake news" |
It shouldn’t have happened but it did. In Hawaii, many felt it was plausible given the rhetoric between leaders. Also something that shouldn’t have happened but did. Some of the US channels carried video of people putting their kids down manholes on the street. The silver lining was a real life demonstration of the state of preparedness. Good time to invest in companies selling bomb shelters in Hawaii.
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My friends son and GF are on Maui and woke up to both their phones going crazy with alarms and this text...
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http://www.kalerkantho.com/assets/ne.../213310kim.jpg ."HaHa, I see you running around like scared rabbits. "Just wait till the real one comes!" |
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I was in Hawaii in 2011 when the Earthquake hit Japan, when there was risk of radiation hitting the Islands, and when the Tsunami sirens were going off for hours. There were rocks showing in the harbour that 70 year old residents had never seen before. There was not widespread panic, there was still water available at the ABC stores, but the high roads into the mountains were absolutely jammed. Everyone was told to go to hotels at least 10 stories up in case the floodwaters came in. Look at what happened in Japan.
To laugh at the people there is lets say uninformed and insensitive. This was an orchestrated event, people in power knew that if Hawaii was targeted, Oahu in particular for whatever reason a couple million people would die instantly, if it was a nuclear attack. I would completely understand the panic, imagine how horrific the day would have been. Every news outlet, every television radio siriusXM, all the police radios and cell phones on the Islands playing 'there is a missile enroute, this is not a drill'. I would say 95% of the people there would be in complete hysterics, the children and women would be completely inconsolable, and a hell of a lot of the men too. This could have been the start of WW3, but lol, those stupid tourists, nothing happened how can you be suffering??? How fast do you think Pearl Harbour can be cleaned out? Sitting here I would like to say I would have sat on the beach and waited for the end, but I honestly can't say what I would have done. |
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Back to the topic at hand, I agree that this seems like its way beyond the screw up of any one person. What a world we live in |
I have a feeling it was not a screw up at all. But somebody/some group is going to get thrown under the bus.
Now the authorities there know how people will react if it is not a drill. |
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It's a good thing the US military double-through-octuple checked things before responding with things that fly at Mach 3+. Imagine the expense of pressing the abort button on many hundreds of missiles 2/3 of the way to their destination.....:thinking-006: |
Pointless really.
In the event of all out nuclear war hope you are in the blast zone, or get to ground zero as quickly as possible. How long does it take for any intercontinental missle to reach its intended target(s)? Not like you get an advance warning that it’s going to be fired, Only when it’s all ready fired and inbound. Thanks but I’d rather not know it’s coming and go about my day. If it happens and I die instantly I won’t know it anyway. If it happens and don’t I hope to be killed quickly in the radiation fallout or nuclear win |
I heard on the news that, in reality, by the time the launch is detected, confirmed by secondary systems, and the trajectory is determined, they have already lost 6-7 minutes of a flight that would take 22 minutes to get from N.Korea to Hawaii.
That leaves you like 14-15 minutes - there really is no point, by the time the alarm sounds, to do anything other than hug your loved ones. I could see how this could have caused hysteria and panic. Maybe traffic accidents and even suicides. Scary nonetheless. |
When people are noting the flight time of some of these missiles it has me curious of the actual speed of the things. Commercial flights from Hawaii to Seoul clock in at around 8 hours....... I doubt these missiles are going 16 times the speed of a commercial jet. Four to five times faster, no problem; 16+ Times faster, I have my doubts.
Oops, it seems my doubts were wrong, lots of entries note that ICBM's clock in around 15,000 mph. I'll leave it up anyways. |
I was watching the missile launch facts when Kim was testing last time, the so called expert said you've got about 45 minutes from North Korea to the US mainland. Not a lot of time, I guess the missile heads way up into space and then re-enters at the end, so can't really track it either. Mankind is doomed, nobody can seem to get along, some yahoo is going to push the button yet
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It is both funny and not funny at the same time. Maybe too early for some jokes however some reality is funny.
On the serious side one has to hope no one either died of the stress nor committed suicide rather than hit by radiation fall out. On the lesser serious side...maybe a run on the "day after" pill. No point using protection if we are dying. Also...on the intermediate side...I wonder how many marriages are ending because a partner said to the other...since we are all going to die I want to live my last seconds with the one I really love. Then there is the fallout politically. The goof that made the mistake is out of a job. Hard to live that down. Still...I would ask. Was he trained to know what buttons to push when? If yes...resignation accepted. If not...resignation rejected and mr boss person is let go. Accountability and consequences for something so critical seems to be lax. Then there is people thinking North Korea is laughing. Ummm. Not. If I were North Korean I would of shut my pants. Simply put...If a nuke hit Hawaii from North Korea it would be followed up by a massive number of short range missiles hitting all their missile launch points. Followed by a few US nukes. Kim would be dead as would most of North Korea. Still...if you are North Korea...why on earth would you hit Hawaii...minimal damage to US infrastructure for 100% of the after pain on North Korea. You would want a missile to hit anywhere in mainland USA. That being said...they know the US could potentially knock them out of the sky...which means bam...they still get shut bombed. In all sense of reality...common sense dictates no missile would ever hit Hawaii. Yes...I do believe neither Kim nor Donald want to launch nukes. They just want to bluster. Cause what is the point of being obnoxious if you are dead. |
There is no funny.
Making light of something so serious is easy sitting in a chair at home in Canada Sundancefisher. |
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In the time for me it would be brutal. You have to assume the facts are facts. That missile is coming. Then...ops a mistake. The story for instance of the couple that went to town on the hotel room bar fridge only to have a $278 tab on their bill. You have an opinion as one not there or where you? |
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I see no humor in any of that. |
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Fact is yes. It was a terrible thing to have happen. Hopefully no one died as a result. People are a resilient lot and we seem to find humor as a way of coping as well as remembering so that a similar thing doesn’t happen again. Feel free to actually read all I wrote. And yes seeing all the people running for shelter is freaky. |
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"INCOMING MISSILE" anywhere would terrify people. The truth is I feel for people, maybe you do not? For someone as seemingly well travelled and outspoken as you are on every single thread ever in general, these replies sure seem out of character for you. I am not saying we should all declare a day of grieving for the poor people that had a scare, but making light of something so sinister is well lets say in the utmost of poor taste. Have you ever heard anyone mention December 7 1941? Check it out on Google, see if maybe just possibly the locale of Hawaii would have some bearing on people being terrified. And yes, you are entitled to your opinion. I have mine. I will leave it at that. |
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Not sure how else to articulate. You are taking this very hard. You may not think so but based upon your posts to me I see it that way. At no time did I make light of everyone nor of the whole situation. I pointed out both sides as one can reasonably see it. In fact I did acknowledge the bad side of the mistake. However...to seemingly get so upset over a mistake of which someone is feeling far worse than anyone due to their impact on others...taking a step back...we can agree to disagree on the severity of the impact on mankind or Hawaii. PS Don't watch late night talk shows for a while. |
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