HOW DOES A 20 CAL RIFLE COMPARE to a 223?
I've been giving some thought to getting a 20 cal rifle. Yes, I know there are quite a few variations available but I'll get to that later.
I love to shoot gophers and prairie dogs at long range. I have a 223, a 22-250 and for longer ranges a 6 BR and a 6.5 Lapua. So, I have to ask myself do I really need yet another varmint rig? The lighter bullets in the 20 cal means less recoil and less muzzle blast which adds up when shooting 200 to 300 rounds in a day. On the other hand I can shoot 40 grain bullets out of my 223 or go hog wild and shoot them out of the 22-250. I'm sure the 20 cal has less effective range compared to a 223, but how much less? I'm certainly not the first shooter to raise this question. So I ask my fellow AO's---what is your experience and advice? Bill |
Never had an issue shooting gophers with a .22, and keeping a .223 on hand for the real long shots.:)
Have no idea how they compare because I have never looked to improve on that particular mouse trap! Next......:thinking-006: Cat |
The effective range is at least 400 to 500 yards if you use bullets like the 39gr Blitzking. It has a B.C. that is quite close to the .224" 69gr Matchking, and with comparable capacity cases, you can drive the lighter .20 caliber bullets faster. For 200 to 300 yard shots, I prefer the 17 hornet to either the .20 or .22 cal cartridges. because using only 9.5gr of powder, the barrel doesn't heat up nearly as quickly as with the larger calibers.
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It's been my experience that performance falls off in windy conditions. compared to the 223 or 22.250
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Elk would know
My wife prefers the .204 over any thing else in the house. No recoil, lots of range and her best shot so far is a coyote off the front porch at 375 yards.
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You can compare the wind drift with some bullet weights below, but in general, if the B.C. is similar, and the velocity is similar, then the wind drift is similar as well.
http://www.6mmbr.com/20caliber.html |
the best part i found about hunting varmints with a 20 cal is the fact that i can spot my own hits/misses. i have found the real world wind drift effects to be not bad at all. if its too windy for the round to be effective its too windy to be out hunting gophers in the first place. with some good dust to be able to spot misses i have found mine (20 practical) to be effective out to 500 yards. i will repeat myself in saying the ability to watch through the scope is awesome. sure your 22-250 can do this but you wont get to see it. :budo:
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full penetration on that shot....:-)
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Found this to be helpful
this is an article that compares the .20 cal to the .22 cals
http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartr...des/20caliber/ I shoot a .204 and love it. This sums up the article Treatise for Twenties by Kory Hamzeh, 6mmBR.com 20 Caliber Editor Why are folks turning to the “Terrific Twenties”? Among the most important reasons are: low recoil, high velocity, low noise, reduced cost, longer barrel life, and better ballistics for a given bullet weight. In short, compared to a .223 Rem, a Twenty shoots flatter, costs less to shoot, and is easier on the shooter’s shoulder and his barrel. |
I have a .20 Tactical that I've had since before the .204 Ruger was introduced. It's a great cartridge and a real joy to shoot. If you are building one I would suggest you consider a faster twist (9.0) to accommodate the 50 grain pills. Long Range Wonder !
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Not quite as dramatic, shot at 200 yards, with the 32gr Blitzking leaving the muzzle at 3650fps.
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You could contact rembo. He just so happens to have a real nice little Sako in 20 Extreme for sale.
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Do a 20 Extreme in a 9 twist barrel and it will run 32 grain bullets from 3800 to over 4000 fps. The 39/ 40 grain bullets will shoot bugholes at 3450 t0 3700 fps and at the slower velocities the low pressures do not heat up barrels very quickly or stretch brass. If you want to run more energy and less drift than a 223 or 22-250, at 500 yards, use much less powder to do it a 55 Berger will do the trick. Quote:
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I couldn't be happier with my 20 Tac. Shoots flatter and kicks less than a 223.
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Hoping I will be able to chime in on the terminal ballistics with the extreme soon gotta get out and call a few coyotes. It is a fair bit quieter than a 223.
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Blasted at least 3 gophers before and being an esteemed forum member I say it really doesn’t matter that much.
Butt… 22 hornet and fireball are king! http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_2889.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_4095_1.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_4096_1.jpg |
I've never seen a finer display of offhand marksmanship with the shoulder shot on that gopher.
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Love your little hornet gopher. I hope to find one just like it myself.
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Great pictures, especially Tikka 250's explosive 40 V-Max. I got some pictures of gophers shot with a 32 V-Max at about 3800 fps from the muzzle.
Close range that I call bits and pieces: [IMG]http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...psqbiwylf0.jpg[/IMG] .jpg[/IMG][/URL][/IMG] [IMG]http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2jozqxao.jpg[/IMG] 200 Yards: [IMG]http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...psx94gqfcd.jpg[/IMG] 200 yards poked his head out to see what happened to buddy. [IMG]http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...pslf7ax4mq.jpg[/IMG] |
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Thanks TC Recently came upon a win 1885 22RF hi grade Should maybe have some pics in the spring of it. |
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