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operator john 11-19-2018 08:39 PM

7,900 Dollar Moose
 
Maybe they should give me 7900 dollars not to hunt moose, so they can recover to previous numbers.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...PQz?li=AAggXBV

silver lab 11-19-2018 09:57 PM

We should take them a few wolves.

Bushrat 11-20-2018 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by silver lab (Post 3875476)
We should take them a few wolves.

Yes, wolves were native to Cape Breton. Were wiped out by about the mid 1800's. Moose were wiped out by the 1930's. 18 moose were brought there in 1947-48. Instead of using moose from mainland Nova Scotia they transplanted moose from Elk Island park from here in Alberta.

Battle Rat 11-20-2018 08:00 AM

It's getting to the point where it's not even much of a surprise anymore.
You could feed a lot more first nations hungry people if that money was spent wisely.
You could teach the traditional ways better without the use of a helo.
You could build relationships between native and non native by cooperating in the hunt.

dustinjoels 11-20-2018 10:28 AM

Anytime someone brings up money for conservation the immediate response is where will the money come from and tag prices and license fees will need to be increased significantly to pay for it. Yet the government will drop $2 million on a ridiculous program such as this out of general revenue that only benefits a select few. And I agree, the benefits aren’t much. Doesn’t teach much about traditional ways and the money could be used much more efficiently to help the people on the reserve.

If the government is bound and determined to put the money towards sustainable native harvest, use the money to transplant some moose to the reserve. If they wipeout the population on the reserve afterwards, thems the breaks, got an opportunity for a sustainable resource and wiped it out just like in many other places.

cpwrestler 11-20-2018 01:08 PM

They say that they got 56,000lbs of meat off of the 120 moose. $7900*120/56000lbs = $16.93/lb. Not that bad of a deal if it also means restoring the forest and if the costs of the program are coming down.

Could it be done cheaper? Probably, but in terms of dollars per pound, it's probably better than many of us do on our hunts.

Peebles 11-20-2018 04:14 PM

Racism seems to have clouded the purpose of this program to some readers. The goal is to preserve and reclaim the forest, not to feed First Nations. Other methods were also used including tree planting and building enclosures. I know parks are hated on this site as much as FN so it will probably still meet with opprobrium, but the primary goals were science and conservation oriented, with the moose meat as a beneficial side effect. Involving the FN probably reduced their costs compared to hiring professional hunters, and there are other bureaucratic reasons for it besides.

Check out their first newsletter about the project to learn more.
https://www.pc.gc.ca/en/pn-np/ns/cbr...n-newsletter-1

Bushrat 11-20-2018 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cpwrestler (Post 3875771)
They say that they got 56,000lbs of meat off of the 120 moose. $7900*120/56000lbs = $16.93/lb. Not that bad of a deal if it also means restoring the forest and if the costs of the program are coming down.

Could it be done cheaper? Probably, but in terms of dollars per pound, it's probably better than many of us do on our hunts.

Yes it could be done cheaper, they could sell draw applications and tags, Open it up to every licensed hunter to apply, the gov't would make money, the bed and breakfasts and hotels would be filled, people buying gas, meals , supplies, etc. They would make more money off this in a two week or month long moose season and extend their tourist season by a few weeks, it would be great for the sagging economy of CB. So instead of making money off of these 'problem' moose they got to figure out the most expensive and wasteful way to get rid of tax payers money to solve this problem.

elkhunter11 11-20-2018 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bushrat (Post 3876010)
Yes it could be done cheaper, they could sell draw applications and tags, Open it up to every licensed hunter to apply, the gov't would make money, the bed and breakfasts and hotels would be filled, people buying gas, meals , supplies, etc. They would make more money off this in a two week or month long moose season and extend their tourist season by a few weeks, it would be great for the sagging economy of CB. So instead of making money off of these 'problem' moose they got to figure out the most expensive and wasteful way to get rid of tax payers money to solve this problem.

No don't go confusing the issue with the facts.:)

ks.snow 11-20-2018 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bushrat (Post 3876010)
Yes it could be done cheaper, they could sell draw applications and tags, Open it up to every licensed hunter to apply, the gov't would make money, the bed and breakfasts and hotels would be filled, people buying gas, meals , supplies, etc. They would make more money off this in a two week or month long moose season and extend their tourist season by a few weeks, it would be great for the sagging economy of CB. So instead of making money off of these 'problem' moose they got to figure out the most expensive and wasteful way to get rid of tax payers money to solve this problem.

That's the only thing they seem to be able to do in Cape Breton. Coming from someone who used to live there, it is only going downhill faster.

bowshot 11-22-2018 08:15 AM

It takes about 25 years to draw a tag for a resident in NS. They tried the cull without air support but couldnt get a moose close to a road or in an area the hunters were willing to extract a moose from. I dont recall any stories of the traditional hunters using helicopters in the past.
Maintaining the traditional way of life has no cost.


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