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Talking moose 03-21-2019 08:57 AM

Censorship at its finest.
 
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MrDave 03-21-2019 09:27 AM

I do it myself. Amazing how but better FB is when I block the crap. Have seen so many posts and lies being spread on it that I have been calling people out on it lots. My grandfather taught against these types of dirtbags overseas, I will do it on my home soil. My fathers family has been in Canada since before confederation, and my mothers family came from Pennsylvania in a Red River cart. I'm Canadian, not anything else. Except certifiably a little crazy.
No problem hunting Nazis on my home soil, and that tool is one great step. If you haven't seen the lies openly posted on Facebook, you probably think they are truths.

Talking moose 03-21-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDave (Post 3950007)
I do it myself. Amazing how but better FB is when I block the crap. Have seen so many posts and lies being spread on it that I have been calling people out on it lots. My grandfather taught against these types of dirtbags overseas, I will do it on my home soil. My fathers family has been in Canada since before confederation, and my mothers family came from Pennsylvania in a Red River cart. I'm Canadian, not anything else. Except certifiably a little crazy.
No problem hunting Nazis on my home soil, and that tool is one great step. If you haven't seen the lies openly posted on Facebook, you probably think they are truths.

A lot of lies posted yes.... a lot of truths as well. Being able to decipher the two? Priceless! :)

wildwoods 03-21-2019 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Talking moose (Post 3950008)
A lot of lies posted yes.... a lot of truths as well. Being able to decipher the two? Priceless! :)

And who thinks it's a great idea to let government censor what is extreme and what isn't. Sounds like a slippery Nazi slope to me

Talking moose 03-21-2019 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wildwoods (Post 3950009)
And who thinks it's a great idea to let government censor what is extreme and what isn't. Sounds like a slippery Nazi slope to me

Not me. Sounds like Dave likes it.

crazy_davey 03-21-2019 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Talking moose (Post 3950011)
Sounds like Dave likes it.

Not surprised at all...

pinelakeperch 03-21-2019 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wildwoods (Post 3950009)
And who thinks it's a great idea to let government censor what is extreme and what isn't. Sounds like a slippery Nazi slope to me

It is a slippery slope, and people need to learn to be more aware of sensationalist, fake websites. It amazes me how many people re-post websites with blatantly false articles, websites with male performance ads strewn all over. I don't mean to sound like an ageist, but it's usually, older, less internet-savvy folk.

It's scary to see censorship, but it's also scary to see people shoot up pizza parlours because they read that Hillary Clinton was operating a child trafficking ring in the basement.

urban rednek 03-21-2019 10:05 AM

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Go Canuckistan! :angry3:
Stalin and Mao would be so proud!

CaberTosser 03-21-2019 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wildwoods (Post 3950009)
And who thinks it's a great idea to let government censor what is extreme and what isn't. Sounds like a slippery Nazi slope to me

That's the crux of it now isn't it? I hate racists but I also equally hate the current trend of the political left to play gender and identity politics in ways that create more division rather than unity. I have a sister who is so leftist that she thinks I'm a bigot because I dare question people if they do something dumb or immoral when they happen to have different skin pigmentation than my own lily-white butt.... and she even does this while I have two black people living in my own household! That's how stupid and utterly devoid of logic she has become, that scary part is that she spreads the idiocy and is doing so ceaselessly. What's more is that she is a 'professional' journalist as well as a rabid online bully. I also hate how certain political factions intentionally misrepresent or utterly fabricate anti firearms propaganda. I cannot trust an elected representative who throws their name behind falsified 'data' whether its the person who fabricated said propaganda or the twit voting the party line who didn't bother fact-checking the claim or who voted against the wishes of the majority of their constituents.

If any political party gets to censor things you can bet there will be bias. Just concentrate on the spread of hate, be it white supremacists or militant lefties such as Antifa. I've not seen anyone arrested on spreading false anti-pipeline propaganda.....

elkhunter11 03-21-2019 10:11 AM

What scares me is what will be designated as extremist. Anything that mentions anything negative about the government could be labeled extremist. In the future that could include posting about the SNC scandal.

Talking moose 03-21-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 3950028)
What scares me is what will be designated as extremist. Anything that mentions anything negative about the government could be labeled extremist. In the future that could include posting about the SNC scandal.

Or hunting sites.....

Dynamic 03-21-2019 10:32 AM

The amount of fake extreme content that gets shared without any thought of validity is downright scary. I know it sounds like censorship and is a pie in the sky idea but “news stories” should have the requirement to be fact checked and proved as valid before behind shared to the sheep who just reshare it.

Looking for ways to stop the spread of false information to create division and hate is not censorship. When you must write a paper for university and are required to cite sources, that is not considered censorship but is rather a sound practice.

ctd 03-21-2019 10:37 AM

Comming from the same public safety minister who voted to decrease penalties for hard criminals, also the same guy who thinks all guns should be banned.
Not gonna lie, I don't trust him or anyone around him to do anything lawful with out extreme prejudice

Wasnt it the liberals who fought to allow all speech to be free in Canada. Even hate speech, The last time they were in power?

Norwest Alta 03-21-2019 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 3950028)
What scares me is what will be designated as extremist. Anything that mentions anything negative about the government could be labeled extremist. In the future that could include posting about the SNC scandal.

Absolutely. Much like free speech. It's only free if no one's offended.

ReconWilly 03-21-2019 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDave (Post 3950007)
I do it myself. Amazing how but better FB is when I block the crap. Have seen so many posts and lies being spread on it that I have been calling people out on it lots. My grandfather taught against these types of dirtbags overseas, I will do it on my home soil. My fathers family has been in Canada since before confederation, and my mothers family came from Pennsylvania in a Red River cart. I'm Canadian, not anything else. Except certifiably a little crazy.
No problem hunting Nazis on my home soil, and that tool is one great step. If you haven't seen the lies openly posted on Facebook, you probably think they are truths.

You are going to hunt Nazis?

Going after the fascists masquerading as progressive liberals?


Do you mean the ASHKANAZI tribe?

Who are you going to hunt?

Does that mean that YOU are on your list?

You could probably be locked up for online threats.

ReconWilly 03-21-2019 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynamic (Post 3950037)
The amount of fake extreme content that gets shared without any thought of validity is downright scary. I know it sounds like censorship and is a pie in the sky idea but “news stories” should have the requirement to be fact checked and proved as valid before behind shared to the sheep who just reshare it.

Looking for ways to stop the spread of false information to create division and hate is not censorship. When you must write a paper for university and are required to cite sources, that is not considered censorship but is rather a sound practice.

SCARY???

Really?, If you can't figure out the difference on your own then it really doesn't matter what you get exposed to now does it.

Lay off of the fluoride and things become crystal clear.


Government censorship is the END of freedom.

Dynamic 03-21-2019 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ReconWilly (Post 3950051)
SCARY???

Really?, If you can't figure out the difference on your own then it really doesn't matter what you get exposed to now does it.

Lay off of the fluoride and things become crystal clear.


Government censorship is the END of freedom.

I can figure out the difference on my own. That is not the point. The point is that there are obviously many people have proved they CANNOT figure it out on their own. That is the scary part. They literally tell the world how ignorant they actually are. They don’t even know that they don’t know!

People have since the dawn of time have based their world view based of the information at hand. If the “information” is factually wrong and being spread like wildfire then yes, we should be scared.

ReconWilly 03-21-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynamic (Post 3950057)
I can figure out the difference on my own. That is not the point. The point is that there are obviously many people have proved they CANNOT figure it out on their own. That is the scary part. They literally tell the world how ignorant they actually are. They don’t even know that they don’t know!

People have since the dawn of time have based their world view based of the information at hand. If the “information” is factually wrong and being spread like wildfire then yes, we should be scared.

Layoff of the media man. It's not healthy to expose yourself to this manipulation.

I'm NOT SCARED, EVEN A LITTLE TINY BIT...

Dynamic 03-21-2019 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ReconWilly (Post 3950061)
Layoff of the media man. It's not healthy to expose yourself to this manipulation.

I'm NOT SCARED, EVEN A LITTLE TINY BIT...

Okay? Uhhh I don’t think you are understanding what I am saying. I never said anything about me being scared by the media and I’m not being manipulated by the media. I assure you I’m perfectly healthy as well.

I was saying that extremist points of view and factually incorrect information is being spread far too easily. From what I have seen on my Facebook feed alone is cause for alarm because it has been getting worse and worse. Add in a provincial election and it is downright embarrassing what people share.

walking buffalo 03-21-2019 11:52 AM

These articles fit into both this thread and the Trudeau SNC scandal.

At Trudeau’s behest, Gould instructed Google News to limit Canadian access to foreign press
https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/03...foreign-press/

Ottawa political operative threatens conservative publisher with ‘fake news’ in The Globe and Mail
https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/03...lobe-and-mail/

pinelakeperch 03-21-2019 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynamic (Post 3950068)
Okay? Uhhh I don’t think you are understanding what I am saying. I never said anything about me being scared by the media and I’m not being manipulated by the media. I assure you I’m perfectly healthy as well.

I was saying that extremist points of view and factually incorrect information is being spread far too easily. From what I have seen on my Facebook feed alone is cause for alarm because it has been getting worse and worse. Add in a provincial election and it is downright embarrassing what people share.

No doubt!

ReconWilly 03-21-2019 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pinelakeperch (Post 3950074)
No doubt!

For you maybe, most are grown up enough to decide for themselves.

pinelakeperch 03-21-2019 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ReconWilly (Post 3950082)
For you maybe, most are grown up enough to decide for themselves.

You're having a tough time grasping this thread.

huntinstuff 03-21-2019 01:50 PM

People believe media and social media posts

That’s why men buy penis enhancing pills, lose 30 lbs of belly fat in 5 days, get took for tens of thousands of dollars by guys posing as women on the internet, SlapChop, porn sites, foreign “women” looking for love, etc etc

Men are notoriously stupid. And violent. And gullible. But, they have the $.

LOL

Norwest Alta 03-21-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by huntinstuff (Post 3950116)
People believe media and social media posts

That’s why men buy penis enhancing pills, lose 30 lbs of belly fat in 5 days, get took for tens of thousands of dollars by guys posing as women on the internet, SlapChop, porn sites, foreign “women” looking for love, etc etc

Men are notoriously stupid. And violent. And gullible. But, they have the $.

LOL

Does any of those penis enhancing pills work?

tirebob 03-21-2019 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Norwest Alta (Post 3950119)
Does any of those penis enhancing pills work?

"just asking for a friend"? lol!

guywiththemule 03-21-2019 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by huntinstuff (Post 3950116)
People believe media and social media posts

That’s why men buy penis enhancing pills, lose 30 lbs of belly fat in 5 days, get took for tens of thousands of dollars by guys posing as women on the internet, SlapChop, porn sites, foreign “women” looking for love, etc etc

Men are notoriously stupid. And violent. And gullible. But, they have the $.

LOL

Again !!:happy0034::sHa_shakeshout:

Talking moose 03-21-2019 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Norwest Alta (Post 3950119)
Does any of those penis enhancing pills work?

I can tell you this... the dehancing ones don’t.

Kawibunga 03-21-2019 02:45 PM

The power that social media has to make naive people believe in absolutely ridiculous things is amazing. I give you this as an example. The Netflix documentary on flat earthers. Good show. Give it a watch if you can

https://www.netflix.com/ca/title/81015076

Now instead of naive people, substitute dangerous, racist, mentally ill, psychopaths, extremists, and now allow them to much easier communicate as a group (via the internet) and they think that gee, everybody is just like me.......... and you get the sad state of affairs of today, which is the abundance of the hate groups out there.

Yes censorship is not a good thing, but I do believe that more needs to be done to monitor the likes of of the whack jobs involved in the hate and extremist groups.

I just watched a great documentary on the Smithsonian Channel on the Hitler Youth the other day. It was pretty scary to see how well the state sponsored indoctrination worked. These young boys in the 30s were fed the same propaganda and by the late teens were full blown Nazi idealists....... the old men could still recite the songs now word for word.

You see and hear the same thing everyday you start believing it. You read and listen to the same content everyday on the internet as that's what you're interested in you start believing it as you never stop to listen to a dissenting voice.

Our social media feeds are a dangerous (well not dangerous but you know what I mean). As we only get feeds that FB/GOOGLE etc have found to be of interest to us. Never views that question our beliefs........

My two bits...... now back to work :)


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