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kingrat 04-16-2018 03:53 PM

Gerald stanley firearms fines today
 
Got 3000 dollar fine plus 900 surcharge and a 10 year firearms ban today. Crown dropped the restricted (pistol) unsafe storage charge and he plead guilty to an unrestricted improper storage charge.

crosman177 04-16-2018 04:05 PM

Is this charge conditional or discharge? Does it come with a criminal record?

Ken07AOVette 04-16-2018 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by crosman177 (Post 3771651)
Is this charge conditional or discharge? Does it come with a criminal record?

GOOGLE is your friend.

CaberTosser 04-16-2018 04:17 PM

Well, hopefully his wife or others in the household still have PAL's. One wouldn't want to advertise to the army of people who wish him harm that he's unarmed.

kevinhits 04-16-2018 04:24 PM

The fine is very reasonable but 10 years? That I do not agree with at all...

Norwest Alta 04-16-2018 04:25 PM

A little much isn't it?

kevinhits 04-16-2018 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette (Post 3771655)
GOOGLE is your friend.

Really Ken? We get enough of that on the fishing forum....

I thought it was a reasonable question...

bat119 04-16-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kevinhits (Post 3771663)
The fine is very reasonable but 10 years? That I do not agree with at all...

That seems to be vindictive, how many farm houses could the RCMP go to right now and find the same thing.

Doesn't say if the charges are criminal

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/sask-f...arge-1.3887329

Ken07AOVette 04-16-2018 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kevinhits (Post 3771666)
Really Ken? We get enough of that on the fishing forum....

My apologies if I hurt anyone's feelings.

I just thought instead of typing here looking for an answer then sitting and waiting for someone else to look it up that people might take the initiative to search for themselves.

AB2506 04-16-2018 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crosman177 (Post 3771651)
Is this charge conditional or discharge? Does it come with a criminal record?

He forfeited some of his guns, $3000 fine, $900 surcharge, 10 weapons ban.

Because he was assessed penalty, it is neither conditional or discharged. He is guilty. He will have to pay $3900. It was not reported, but with this conviction, I believe he will have a criminal record.

Charge of improper storage of a restricted firearm was dismissed.


This was joint submissions from the Crown and defense council.

I have heard the Stanley's are trying to sell some of their land?

kevinhits 04-16-2018 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AB2506 (Post 3771672)
He forfeited some of his guns, $3000 fine, $900 surcharge, 10 weapons ban.

Because he was assessed penalty, it is neither conditional or discharged. He is guilty. He will have to pay $3900. It was not reported, but with this conviction, I believe he will have a criminal record.

Charge of improper storage of a restricted firearm was dismissed.


This was joint submissions from the Crown and defense council.

I have heard the Stanley's are trying to sell some of their land?

Thank you Sir....and I didn't even have to google it:bad_boys_20:

elkhunter1234 04-16-2018 05:04 PM

And when will the remaining FN boys be facing there charges? Oh ya I forgot they haven’t been charged with anything yet.. BS if you ask me..

kingrat 04-16-2018 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AB2506 (Post 3771672)
He forfeited some of his guns, $3000 fine, $900 surcharge, 10 weapons ban.

Because he was assessed penalty, it is neither conditional or discharged. He is guilty. He will have to pay $3900. It was not reported, but with this conviction, I believe he will have a criminal record.

Charge of improper storage of a restricted firearm was dismissed.


This was joint submissions from the Crown and defense council.

I have heard the Stanley's are trying to sell some of their land?

Have been since this past summer.

Norwest Alta 04-16-2018 05:08 PM

So is this a normal type of charge for a improperly stored firearm? Seems very harsh to me. $100 fine should be adequate given all the circumstances.

kevinhits 04-16-2018 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter1234 (Post 3771689)
And when will the remaining FN boys be facing there charges? Oh ya I forgot they haven’t been charged with anything yet.. BS if you ask me..

Exactly....What a bunch of **** that is!!!

whiteout 04-16-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter1234 (Post 3771689)
And when will the remaining FN boys be facing there charges? Oh ya I forgot they haven’t been charged with anything yet.. BS if you ask me..

How many times is this dead horse going to be beaten?

They received immunity for testimony. It’s not right, but it happened.

Sundancefisher 04-16-2018 05:26 PM

https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cana...e_of_a_Firearm

whiteout 04-16-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Norwest Alta (Post 3771694)
So is this a normal type of charge for a improperly stored firearm? Seems very harsh to me. $100 fine should be adequate given all the circumstances.

Max is six months in jail or $5000 fine for a summary offence. Considering he plead down two charges covering 7 NR and one R firearm, it would seem like much less than the maximum outcome

kevinhits 04-16-2018 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteout (Post 3771706)
How many times is this dead horse going to be beaten?

They received immunity for testimony. It’s not right, but it happened.

What testimony? All of them were looped! Huge mistake on the prosecutors office that's for sure.

catnthehat 04-16-2018 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kevinhits (Post 3771663)
The fine is very reasonable but 10 years? That I do not agree with at all...

Standard amount of time .
I have a friend who got the same for doing FAR less.:thinking-006:
Cat

bobtodrick 04-16-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette (Post 3771669)
My apologies if I hurt anyone's feelings.

I just thought instead of typing here looking for an answer then sitting and waiting for someone else to look it up that people might take the initiative to search for themselves.

C'mon Ken...if everyone did that there'd be about 3 posts a day. But this is as much a chat room as it is a forum and people ask questions.
I daresay you've asked a few in your time here.

R3illy 04-16-2018 06:27 PM

they hand out 10 yr weapon bans on charges that arent even gun related... not sure ive ever seen a smaller sentence before.

troutbug 04-16-2018 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bobtodrick (Post 3771724)
C'mon Ken...if everyone did that there'd be about 3 posts a day. But this is as much a chat room as it is a forum and people ask questions.
I daresay you've asked a few in your time here.

agreed....

Talking moose 04-16-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by R3illy (Post 3771747)
they hand out 10 yr weapon bans on charges that arent even gun related... not sure ive ever seen a smaller sentence before.

I had a 10 year firearms ban for an assault causing bodily harm 25 years ago. No weapon. Just a fist to the nose. Broke his nose. It happens a lot.

covey ridge 04-16-2018 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by R3illy (Post 3771747)
they hand out 10 yr weapon bans on charges that arent even gun related... not sure ive ever seen a smaller sentence before.

All of the charges that were laid were firearm related and they are all criminal charges and all will be part of his criminal record.

I am surprised that Stanley's lawyer allowed him to make that deal. The crown had their day in court and the $3000.00 and 10 year ban just sounds vindictive.

R3illy 04-16-2018 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Talking moose (Post 3771774)
I had a 10 year firearms ban for an assault causing bodily harm 25 years ago. No weapon. Just a fist to the nose. Broke his nose. It happens a lot.

Thats ridiculous. If your charge has nothing to do with a weapon why are we adding a weapons ban... and if we want to hand out weapons ban to every charge why is it a always 10 yrs.

Doesnt affect me but it does make you wonder what the goal of the govt is....

Talking moose 04-16-2018 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by R3illy (Post 3771814)
Thats ridiculous. If your charge has nothing to do with a weapon why are we adding a weapons ban... and if we want to hand out weapons ban to every charge why is it a always 10 yrs.

Doesnt affect me but it does make you wonder what the goal of the govt is....

I was pretty shocked too.... and upset. Seems it’s always 10 year bans. Never heard of any other length.

catnthehat 04-16-2018 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R3illy (Post 3771814)
Thats ridiculous. If your charge has nothing to do with a weapon why are we adding a weapons ban... and if we want to hand out weapons ban to every charge why is it a always 10 yrs.

Doesnt affect me but it does make you wonder what the goal of the govt is....

It has to do with the perception that the guilty is a biolant offender and will Be for ten years no matter what :thinking-006:
Cat

boah 04-16-2018 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Talking moose (Post 3771815)
I was pretty shocked too.... and upset. Seems it’s always 10 year bans. Never heard of any other length.

There have been lifetime bans.
But imho, there should have been a 10 day ban in this case.

roper1 04-16-2018 09:15 PM

I'm surprised his lawyer plead it out. Maybe Gerald is just tired of courtrooms & wasn't big into guns, just another tool around the place. Almost assured the guilty plea be cheaper, even with the fines.


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