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butcherboy 12-06-2018 01:36 PM

Euro Moose Skull
 
I am in the process of trying to do a euro moose mount for my nephew. However I am having a terrible time trying to submerge the whole skull in water.:angry3: I have tried using my big barrel (boiling) that I use for elk but the back part of the moose skull is still not in the water.

I have done elk and deer euros before but 1st time for a moose. I am stumped.

Any advice for my 1st moose euro mount?

Savage Bacon 12-06-2018 02:00 PM

Small 110 litre oil drum on turkey deep frier base?

Twisted Canuck 12-06-2018 02:09 PM

A friend did his in an old livestock watering trough. Worked like a charm.

Gretz5582 12-06-2018 02:40 PM

moose
 
I had the same problem couldnt submerge between the base of antlers i covered top in foil and solved the problem

Gretz5582 12-06-2018 02:42 PM

moose
 
by the way i use a 45 gal drum cut off at the bottom ring so you roughly have one third of the drum

double gun 12-06-2018 03:28 PM

For moose I use a metal garbage can with two slots cut for the antlers to sit in.
You can set the nose down in the can, or flip them to get the back of the head. Works well.

Moo Snukkle 12-06-2018 03:30 PM

Steel wheelbarrow tub and tiger torch for me

Curly Bill 12-06-2018 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by double gun (Post 3886863)
For moose I use a metal garbage can with two slots cut for the antlers to sit in.
You can set the nose down in the can, or flip them to get the back of the head. Works well.

X2 With lid on helps steam the stuff thats not submerged. Still doesnt come that easy but with a good pressure washer just takes a little time.

Kurt505 12-06-2018 04:37 PM

45gallon drum cut down. Dump about 4 boxes of baking soda in there, fill to the sop and cover with tin foil. Let simmer for about 2-3hrs

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-CLM- 12-06-2018 09:05 PM

I had to boil mine in two steps. First nose down, then nose up to clean up the top of the skull that was out of the water during step #1.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hunting/M...ull%201-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hunting/M...ull%202-XL.jpg

double gun 12-06-2018 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3886919)
...Dump about 4 boxes of baking soda in there...]

Next time use washing soda/sodium carbonate. Same company, completely different product.

Curly Bill 12-07-2018 12:44 PM

1 scoop of oxiclean and about 1/2cup of sunlight. That cuts my boiling time down by a lot. Can boil for 1hr. Really loosens up the flesh. Always add the oxi clean before the water is boiling or else there’s bubbles $&@&ing everywhere.

crawfy 12-07-2018 06:47 PM

I had a extra wheel barrel bucket and set that on top of a propane heater worked really well.

Kurt505 12-07-2018 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by double gun (Post 3887214)
Next time use washing soda/sodium carbonate. Same company, completely different product.

I found that stuff leaves the scull bone chalky. Baking dado has a better finish even though it takes a bit more elbow grease. Maybe I just used too much?

double gun 12-07-2018 07:18 PM

1/4 cup per gallon of water and it shouldn't be simmered more than 45min.
At least that's the formula they taught in the course I took years ago.


It's very important to not over simmer (and especially boil) when using washing soda. You can easily damage the bone if you over heat with ws. If you have trouble regulating your heat or its your first time simmering a euro - I would recommend just using soap and water.

Curly Bill 12-08-2018 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by double gun (Post 3887952)
1/4 cup per gallon of water and it shouldn't be simmered more than 45min.
At least that's the formula they taught in the course I took years ago.


It's very important to not over simmer (and especially boil) when using washing soda. You can easily damage the bone if you over heat with ws. If you have trouble regulating your heat or its your first time simmering a euro - I would recommend just using soap and water.

That’s interesting. I’ve had good luck so far with washing soda and 1hr simmer time. One thing I did notice was when I get a head that’s been skinned in sept or oct and had a chance to dry out and rippen a bit, bone comes out more gray then say a fresh skinned one. Peroxide usually doesn’t do much for it in that case. Any insight on that?

Also did 2 rotten ones this year (year old) and they were bad! But hide was still on and they came out fine and whitened right up with peroxide.

double gun 12-08-2018 08:51 AM

what is your whitening procedure? And what strength of peroxide are you using?

Curly Bill 12-08-2018 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by double gun (Post 3888268)
what is your whitening procedure? And what strength of peroxide are you using?

35% food grade peroxide 50/50 with water. Get that hot and then submerge the whole skull for 5 to 10 minutes.

husky7mm 12-08-2018 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -CLM- (Post 3887189)
I had to boil mine in two steps. First nose down, then nose up to clean up the top of the skull that was out of the water during step #1.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hunting/M...ull%201-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hunting/M...ull%202-XL.jpg

What beast of a bull!!! I need one with fronts like that!

270person 12-08-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Curly Bill (Post 3888280)
35% food grade peroxide 50/50 with water. Get that hot and then submerge the whole skull for 5 to 10 minutes.



Got easy access to that version H2O2 and after a nice degreasing, just spray it onto the skull. Full strength. Takes minutes to whiten things up and sanitized at the same time. No boiling. No pressure washing. Wouldnt go near either process. Beetle it to get all the tissue off. By far the easiest way.

Kurt505 12-08-2018 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curly Bill (Post 3888256)
That’s interesting. I’ve had good luck so far with washing soda and 1hr simmer time. One thing I did notice was when I get a head that’s been skinned in sept or oct and had a chance to dry out and rippen a bit, bone comes out more gray then say a fresh skinned one. Peroxide usually doesn’t do much for it in that case. Any insight on that?

Also did 2 rotten ones this year (year old) and they were bad! But hide was still on and they came out fine and whitened right up with peroxide.

I have done heads skinned in November and boiled in October that turned out good. My method of whitening is I stuff all the holes, brain cavity, nostrils, eyes, then wrap the skull right up to the base of the antlers with paper towel, then soak it down really good with straight peroxide. Let it sit over night, usually about 16-18hrs then take the paper towel off and leave it sit in the sun. So far so good.

JohnB 12-08-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by double gun (Post 3888268)
what is your whitening procedure? And what strength of peroxide are you using?

40 peroxide and basic white. Bag it with plasitc bag and point a space heater on it. Few hours and wash it off.


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