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blairob 10-14-2014 08:41 AM

270 vs 7mm-08
 
anyone want to share experiences on both in terms of hunting moose? what would be the best choice?

Thank you

elkhunter11 10-14-2014 08:46 AM

Either will work fine. I personally prefer the 7mm-08, and I have taken moose with it.

Lefty-Canuck 10-14-2014 08:47 AM

What range you plan on shooting them at? What bullet (weight and type) re you planning on using?

LC

gitrdun 10-14-2014 09:01 AM

Although I have never shot a moose with either calibers, I'm a fan of the 7mm-08 chambering. Because I enter in some local shooting matches with the 7-08 and also hunt with it, and as a reloader there are more component bullet choices in 7mm (0.284), especially match grade. I firmly believe that the 7mm-08 can do anything the .270 can but in a short action. Having said that, nothing wrong with a .270 as a hunting caliber either. :)

Pathfinder76 10-14-2014 09:05 AM

Do you handload or shoot factory ammunition?

north american hunter 10-14-2014 09:05 AM

I'd go with 7mm-08.

Twisted Canuck 10-14-2014 09:16 AM

Potato Pawtahtoe....use either. I use a 7mm08, and wouldn't hesitate you use a .270.

Kauna 10-14-2014 10:18 AM

270 all day long ....choices of ammo range and performance . I really think the 7-08 is getting over rated at times, great deer cartridge but that's it for me ..

rugatika 10-14-2014 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kauna (Post 2578967)
270 all day long ....choices of ammo range and performance . I really think the 7-08 is getting over rated at times, great deer cartridge but that's it for me ..

Yup. 7mm-08 is todays skinny jeans. Out the door and down the road.

270winny.

Pathfinder76 10-14-2014 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kauna (Post 2578967)
great deer cartridge but that's it for me ..

What exactly is this opinion based on?

Kauna 10-14-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 2578988)
What exactly is this opinion based on?

LOL. Its not an opinion. nice try , now get a .277 that can actually spit bullets out , and see for yourself

Pathfinder76 10-14-2014 11:26 AM

So wild guess then?

aulrich 10-14-2014 11:34 AM

Feed either the right bullet and put it in the lungs and both will be just fine.

Find a rifle that fits you and your budget and make the cartridge call after that, People tend to over thing the cartridge a rifle shoots and under think the rifle/rig in general. there are probably at least 15-20 suitable cartridges that are readily available.

Are you buying new, or borrowing a gun

Kauna 10-14-2014 11:36 AM

You asked the question about ammo .and for once you're sorta right.. between the 7-08 and 270..The OP asked for moose application and my days say go with the 270..The 7-08 is great but needs more oomph than the case can do with the .284..The 7 RM and so on is a diff story .

Pathfinder76 10-14-2014 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kauna (Post 2579055)
You asked the question about ammo .and for once you're sorta right.. between the 7-08 and 270..The OP asked for moose application and my days say go with the 270..The 7-08 is great but needs more oomph than the case can do with the .284..The 7 RM and so on is a diff story .

For once I'm kinda right? You're funny. Now tell me how a 284 120 gr bullet at 3000 fps lacks "oomph" while a 277 130 gr bullet at the same velocity has more than enough?

Pathfinder76 10-14-2014 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aulrich (Post 2579054)
Feed either the right bullet and put it in the lungs and both will be just fine.

Find a rifle that fits you and your budget and make the cartridge call after that, People tend to over thing the cartridge a rifle shoots and under think the rifle/rig in general. there are probably at least 15-20 suitable cartridges that are readily available.

Are you buying new, or borrowing a gun

This is fantastic advice. Unfortunately it will likely be ignored.

roger 10-14-2014 11:52 AM

both the 270 and 7mm08 are great girls starter guns and can be found in the "Junior Miss" section of any decent sporting goods store, just ask for a step-stool to see over the gun counter.
who cares what other people think about your 'cutesy' calibers as long your secure with that lifestyle choice.
Any hairy-chested hunter/gather knows it has say MAGNUM before anything dies!!


(actually cut and paste what elkhunter11 said here)

Okotokian 10-14-2014 11:57 AM

The moose can't tell the difference, I promise. Ordinarily I'd say to decide based on ammo availability if you don't handload... but how do you judge that these days? I can't get the ammo I want in 30-06 for goodness sake.

Okotokian 10-14-2014 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roger (Post 2579075)
both the 270 and 7mm08 are great girls starter guns and can be found in the "Junior Miss" section of any decent sporting goods store, just ask for a step-stool to see over the gun counter.
who cares what other people think about your 'cutesy' calibers as long your secure with that lifestyle choice.
Any hairy-chested hunter/gather knows it has say MAGNUM before anything dies!!


(actually cut and paste what elkhunter11 said here)

But a magnum WILL bleed them out faster when you shoot them in the leg. ;)

Kauna 10-14-2014 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 2579070)
For once I'm kinda right? You're funny. Now tell me how a 284 120 gr bullet at 3000 fps lacks "oomph" while a 277 130 gr bullet at the same velocity has more than enough?

ok.

Kauna 10-14-2014 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roger (Post 2579075)
both the 270 and 7mm08 are great girls starter guns and can be found in the "Junior Miss" section of any decent sporting goods store, just ask for a step-stool to see over the gun counter.
who cares what other people think about your 'cutesy' calibers as long your secure with that lifestyle choice.
Any hairy-chested hunter/gather knows it has say MAGNUM before anything dies!!


(actually cut and paste what elkhunter11 said here)

the OP actually asked a question ..did all this go over your head

Pathfinder76 10-14-2014 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kauna (Post 2579086)
ok.

OK what?

JohninAB 10-14-2014 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roger (Post 2579075)
both the 270 and 7mm08 are great girls starter guns and can be found in the "junior miss" section of any decent sporting goods store, just ask for a step-stool to see over the gun counter.
Who cares what other people think about your 'cutesy' calibers as long your secure with that lifestyle choice.
Any hairy-chested hunter/gather knows it has say magnum before anything dies!!


(actually cut and paste what elkhunter11 said here)

lmao!

gtr 10-14-2014 12:12 PM

Loaded with what?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blairob (Post 2578847)
anyone want to share experiences on both in terms of hunting moose? what would be the best choice?

Thank you

Bet he was smiling when he asked this question...

Mateo 10-14-2014 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 2579070)
For once I'm kinda right? You're funny. Now tell me how a 284 120 gr bullet at 3000 fps lacks "oomph" while a 277 130 gr bullet at the same velocity has more than enough?

One could argue the Sectional Density of a 130 gr .277 cal bullet being .241 beats the 120 gr .284 cal's sectional density of .213.
I'm no pro, but a nice high SD will help a lot in bringing down Large Game.
The .270 win gets my vote between the 2. The 30-06 parent case of the .270 has 17.6% more case capacity that the 308 parent case of the 7-08. :test:

I will admit I am a bit biased to the .270 being that it's my hunting cartridge. :budo:

Kurt505 10-14-2014 12:28 PM

I often wonder how people manage to kill animals larger than squirrels with a muzzle loader, or even a 30-30.

I've killed moose, elk, and deer with a .308, I've killed moose, elk, and deer with a .280, I've only ever killed deer with a 300mag, but I'd bet it'll kill moose and elk too.

My brother in law used to hunt moose and deer with a .243, killed a pile of them with no complaints or worries. Although I own all of the calibers listed on my post, I'll be hunting elk and deer with a 120gr bullet coming out of my .260 this fall. My only worry is freezer space.

expmler 10-14-2014 12:29 PM

I know 4 moose that found the 7-08 highly effective.

Kauna 10-14-2014 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 2579129)
I often wonder how people manage to kill animals larger than squirrels with a muzzle loader, or even a 30-30.

I've killed moose, elk, and deer with a .308, I've killed moose, elk, and deer with a .280, I've only ever killed deer with a 300mag, but I'd bet it'll kill moose and elk too.

My brother in law used to hunt moose and deer with a .243, killed a pile of them with no complaints or worries. Although I own all of the calibers listed on my post, I'll be hunting elk and deer with a 120gr bullet coming out of my .260 this fall. My only worry is freezer space.

that's all great ..by chance are you doing this in grizz country or in someones back yard ? next question is why not use the 243 with no complaints or worries ?

Pathfinder76 10-14-2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mateo (Post 2579120)
One could argue the Sectional Density of a 130 gr .277 cal bullet being .241 beats the 120 gr .284 cal's sectional density of .213.
I'm no pro, but a nice high SD will help a lot in bringing down Large Game.
The .270 win gets my vote between the 2. The 30-06 parent case of the .270 has 17.6% more case capacity that the 308 parent case of the 7-08. :test:

I will admit I am a bit biased to the .270 being that it's my hunting cartridge. :budo:

If sectional density actually meant anything then maybe.

elkdump 10-14-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by expmler (Post 2579130)
I know 4 moose that found the 7-08 highly effective.

A few moose, a few elk, at moderate ranges, the 7mm08 worked just great and that was with 140grn Fusions,

now there are calibers that would have killed them DEADER than dead !

but just dead was fine with me :)


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