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209x50 01-21-2011 08:14 AM

Another proud RCMP moment
 




Lac La Biche RCMP officer pleads guilty to 'appalling' assault



Incident caught on video



By Alexandra Zabjek, edmontonjournal.com November 27, 2010


A frame from video of a beating in the RCMPcell block in Lac La Biche

Photograph by: supplied, edmontonjournal.com




EDMONTON — An RCMP officer who beat a man in custody at the Lac La Biche RCMP detachment last year has pleaded guilty to assault in provincial court where a video of the incident was shown.
The video shows Const. Desmond Sandboe lunging across a hallway toward Andrew Clyburn after the man appears to say something to the officer. Clyburn is smashed against a wall, taken to the ground and punched repeatedly in an assault that lasts approximately 40 seconds and leaves the floor smeared with fluid.
“The RCMP finds this incident appalling. The public trusts the RCMP to care for them in our custody, and we take that responsibility very seriously,” said Supt. Joe Loran, acting commanding officer for the RCMP’s K-Division, in a statement.
Court on Friday heard RCMP officers were called to the Almac bar in Lac La Biche around 3 a.m. on Sept. 13, 2009, to deal with Clyburn, who had been in a fight and was causing problems for staff.
When RCMP arrived, they found Clyburn intoxicated and bleeding from injuries. He was arrested for public intoxication.
Court heard officers took Clyburn to a local hospital. Nurses met the group at the RCMP cruiser but said they would not treat Clyburn because he was belligerent and was smashing his head inside the car. Nurses noted a cut to the back of his head, along with other injuries.
Clyburn was taken to the local RCMP detachment around 3:15 a.m. and put into a cell. Around 7:15 a.m. Clyburn was taken out of his cell and escorted into a hallway area. Sandboe had just started his shift.
The video shows Clyburn, who is not wearing shoes, getting ready to put on a sweatshirt when the assault occurs. Clyburn appears to say something to the officer, although there is no audio in the recording. That’s when the officer lunges at Clyburn from across the hallway, smashing him twice against the wall and punching him repeatedly as he takes Clyburn to the ground.
The officer continues to punch Clyburn, while the man raises his hands to protect his face. He punches Clyburn at least 10 times, while the pair struggle and move along the ground of the hallway.
The assault lasts approximately 40 seconds and two other officers can be seen watching the incident. The video then shows Clyburn being hauled to his feet and taken back down the hallway. The video shows the previously clean floor smeared with fluid.
The case is scheduled to be back in court Jan. 27, 2011, when the defence is expected to present more facts related to the case. A pre-sentence report has been ordered.
Sandboe, a nine-year veteran of the RCMP, has been suspended without pay, a disciplinary action reserved for the most serious of conduct matters.
“Const. Sandboe’s conduct has violated the public’s trust. He has also done a great disservice to the men and women of the RCMP who daily meet and exceed the public’s expectations and who uphold our values,” said Loran, the acting commanding officer.
Sandboe was initially charged with assault causing bodily harm when the charges were announced in 2009 by the Alberta Serious Incident Response Team, which investigates actions of police in cases that result in death or injury. The charge resulted from the ASIRT investigation.
The RCMP is also conducting a code of conduct investigation, which will be completed after the case goes through the court system and could result in Sandboe’s dismissal.
Lac La Biche is about 200 kilometres northeast of Edmonton.
azabjek@edmontonjournal.com












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Jamie Black R/T 01-21-2011 08:21 AM

not that it should make ANY difference at all

but i kinda want to know what the kid said to set him off. :scared0015:

220swifty 01-21-2011 08:33 AM

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...an assault that lasts approximately 40 seconds and leaves the floor smeared with fluid.
I am wondering about this fluid, did the guy shart?

New Hunter Okotoks 01-21-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 220swifty (Post 808072)
I am wondering about this fluid, did the guy shart?

Usually they would say "smeared with blood." I'm thinking perhaps a mixture of blood,shart,and urine! I think that could be called an RCMP cocktail. LOL!

Whatever he said sure got him noticed and is the perfect example of a guy who was talking when he should have been listening!

Rod1960 01-21-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie Black R/T (Post 808057)
not that it should make ANY difference at all

but
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i kinda want to know what the kid said to set him off.
:scared0015:

I remember an interview from awhile back, the cop was mispronouncing his last name and he corrected him.

Found it:

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Updated: Sat Nov. 27 2010 16:27:29

Nahreman Issa, ctvedmonton.ca

A man whose beating was caught on jail surveillance cameras says he did nothing to provoke the beating he took at the hands of an RCMP officer.

Andrew Clyburn spoke with CTV news on Saturday; also watching for the first time video of him being attacked.

That incident took place on Sept. 13 of last year at the Lac La Biche RCMP Detachment. Clyburn admits he was drunk and had been involved in a bar fight that night, landing him in police custody.

In the video, you can see Clyburn being escorted down the hallway of the detachment. It then showed Cst. Desmond Sandboe lunge at him. He falls to the ground defenceless and Sandboe is shown repeatedly striking blow after blow.

"He got my last name wrong," says Clyburn. "I corrected it and he just lost it."
Clyburn claims he suffered a broken nose, that the back of his head was cut open and is now a visible scar. But he says what happened after the attack was downright cruel.

"I had to mop up all of my blood before they would let me leave," said Clyburn.

As for Sandboe, he pleaded guilty to common assault in an Edmonton court room on Friday. The nine year veteran didn't want to speak to CTV cameras. He'll be sentenced in January.

The RCMP isn't saying if Sandboe will lose his job or not. But Alberta's Acting Commander acknowledges the damage the video does to the force.

"We rely on the public's trust to do our jobs," said Supt. Joe Loran. "Obviously in this case, this member has violated the public's trust."

Clyburn says he's also considering civil action, claiming Sandboe and the RCMP should pay for the physical damage he suffered while in their custody. CTV tried speaking with Sandboe's lawyer, Rod Gregory, but he reserved comment. When asked if his client was provoked by the victim in any way before the attack, Gregory said that it will all eventually come out in court.

Clyburn believes someone who would do something like this doesn't deserve a badge and gun.

"He'll get what he deserves in the end."

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...b=EdmontonHome

sureshot 01-21-2011 10:14 AM

I just wastched the video utterly disgusting, and they wonder why people have no respect for the rcmp. The guys just standing there should be charged also. The rcmp has become an utter disgrace.

WCTHEMI 01-21-2011 10:27 AM

He used to be stationed in Whitecourt, met him a few times, seemed to me to be one of those gung ho type officers. I also watched the video, and am curious if anything is happening to the other officer who just stood there and watched the whole thing happen. Seems to me he should have jumped in and did something.

Giterdone 01-21-2011 10:41 AM

Yup another proud RCMP moment. Makes me just want to go out and shake an officers hand and tell him how much I respect him and his kind. Never had a problem in the past but I'm inclined to carry a video camera everywhere I go now. Even routine road stops are becoming a carry on your way or get out of the car so I can smash your face in situation.

Albertadiver 01-21-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sureshot (Post 808173)
I just wastched the video utterly disgusting, and they wonder why people have no respect for the rcmp. The guys just standing there should be charged also. The rcmp has become an utter disgrace.

That Video was disturbing.

Jamie Black R/T 01-21-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rod1960 (Post 808138)
I remember an interview from awhile back, the cop was mispronouncing his last name and he corrected him.

I dont doubt this....i would like to know HOW he corrected him though.

Something tells me the safe bet is he didnt just "correct" him. It was almost 100% Clyburns mouth that started the bar fight in the first place and it was definiently 100% his mouth that hampered him getting medical attention.

Be silly not to think he verbally assaulted the officer and lit the fuse.

Again im not justifying the beatdown. Just hard to imagine a long time officer blowing up over something as simple as being corrected on pronouncing a name. I dont buy it.

Redfrog 01-21-2011 10:55 AM

I wonder why we have a rash of these incidents now. For years and years the RCMP were the epitome of honorable law enforcement. Now suddenly they run off the rails??? Very disturbing,

Unless this kind of thing has been going on all along and now due to all the cameras at large these incidents are seeing the light of day. No tell me that isn't the case. Please.

Albertadiver 01-21-2011 10:58 AM

Guaranteed that the guy's mouth is what caused him all the trouble all evening, but regardless, the RCMP know what's involved with beligerant drunks. The cop blew his top, I probably would have too, but I'm not a cop, and that's no excuse for that kind of beat down just because some idiot drunk lipped him off.

Tuc 01-21-2011 10:59 AM

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but i kinda want to know what the kid said to set him off
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(if it was a case of disrespect)

Thats what some of those mouthy punks need. I bet he'll think twice before he hurls another insult at an RCMP officer.

Too bad the officer got caught on video.

Ianhntr 01-21-2011 11:03 AM

Somehow we've all got to realize that there are some really great people in the force, that they are hogtied by a non-functional system that crucifies them when they try to deal with some of this garbage internally for being troublemakers. FWIW- I think that is the #1 issue behind alot of this.
It doesn't just exist in this enforcement agency either, DFO and SRD have the same sorts of issues. Perhaps a look into the basic training in Regina might be appropriate. Maybe check into a common sense course instead of the computer generated images of crooks pulling guns on the recruits without any provocation. By the time some of these boys leave Regina, they have it drilled into their head that everybody they deal with potentially wants to kill them.
Before Mayerthorpe et al gets thrown up at me, do you really think that those four boys might have had a better chance by going in guns drawn? That's a very unfortunate situation that I think might only have been dealt with by trying to reason. Makes a man wonder whether or not that guy might have been through a "Sandboe" situation and decided he wouldn't go through it again.

Just my own thoughts.

HunterDave 01-21-2011 11:17 AM

I watched the video as well and what I saw was an act of cowardice by a person in a position of authority. The Officer waited for the opportune moment to sucker punch the prisoner and subsequently lay a beating on him. :mad3: I have no time for cowards let alone a coward who is someone that is supposed to be the example of how people are supposed to behave.

Regardless of what the prisoner said the Officer over-reacted to say the least. It was a criminal act and I hope that his superiors feed him to the lions and the prisoner cleans him out financially.

If the RCMP wants to improve their image in the public's eyes it's time to start getting tough on these thugs in uniform and stop protecting them under an "old boys" code. This Officer is the perfect individual to make an example out of and set the standard for everyone. FIRE HIM! Anything less will be viewed as a slap on the wrist.

I still think that the RCMP is, as a whole, is very professional and their image is being soiled by a few bad apples. TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE RCMP!

As a side note, it looks to me like the Officer might be on the "juice", another controlled substance that is illegal.

Ianhntr 01-21-2011 11:28 AM

You have my vote, well said.

AxeMan 01-21-2011 11:39 AM

What was Cst. Sandboe thinking? He surely knew there was video surveilence in the detachment hallway. It just doesn't make any sense, or are some of these guys so brazen that they think they can get away with it. I'm thinking he was on the "juice" too. Also, I'll bet that this Clyburn guy said something ignorant. I'm not saying it was right but he probably deserved the attitude adjustment.

Walleyes 01-21-2011 11:47 AM

Although the beating was a little extreme it was probably deserved. We don't know the big picture on these issues sometimes. This guy is a well known smart azz that needed a good attitude adjustment and he got it.. His parents obviously never tuned hm up so it was bout time someone did..

Hopefully he learned a lesson,, when the poe poe is talkin you best be listening,,, dumd azz...

Real tough guy hey ??? he pizzes himself when to chips are down...

Sneeze 01-21-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuc (Post 808224)
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Too bad the officer got caught on video.

Thats absolutely the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Standing up for people in authority positions - abusing the powers we give them?

Police officers should be held to a higher standard.

Thats like saying its okay for a Fish Cop to poach as long as he doesn't get caught.

HunterDave 01-21-2011 11:59 AM

When sucker punching someone that you think has a big mouth and beating the pizz out of them becomes legal, especially by the police, we're in for big trouble.

sheephunter 01-21-2011 12:03 PM

Yup, kind of like somesome saying that is was their wife's fault that they smacked her. It don't wash.

Tundra Monkey 01-21-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleyes (Post 808287)
Although the beating was a little extreme it was probably deserved.

Pickeral....are you serious????

tm

Ianhntr 01-21-2011 12:11 PM

I can see a guy losing it, and can even go along with an attitude adjustment to a point. but the cop isn't the one with that power, and losing it doesn't include the extremes that happens in this. Enforcement officers are trained in tactics, and expected to be able to handle and laugh off abuse. If you can't find a different line of work.
With the amount of force used here to counter a very short verbal shot, how much more before the member escalates to using his other force tools??

HunterDave 01-21-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sheephunter (Post 808313)
Yup, kind of like somesome saying that is was their wife's fault that they smacked her. It don't wash.

Good point.

Redfrog 01-21-2011 01:09 PM

At least the cop has a reference for 'excessive force'.

Would it be ok to hang a licking on a cop who disrespected you? You know just to teach him a lesson.

This incident didn't take place when they were loading a belligerent drunk in to a car. The officer involved had nothing to do with the original complaint. He just came on shift. So how much if any abuse was he subjected to.

yamaha 1 01-21-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Redfrog (Post 808385)
At least the cop has a reference for 'excessive force'.

Would it be ok to hang a licking on a cop who disrespected you? You know just to teach him a lesson.

This incident didn't take place when they were loading a belligerent drunk in to a car. The officer involved had nothing to do with the original complaint. He just came on shift. So how much if any abuse was he subjected to.

Exactly, the cop is getting what he deserves. The RCMP take alot of abuse by the drunks and all the tough guys in the world...they are trained to take it and if you can't, its time to get a new job before some one really gets hurt or killed.

New Hunter Okotoks 01-21-2011 01:44 PM

In the other cases lately with RCMP misconduct the victims did NOTHING wrong. Somehow I don't feel too sorry for this guy though. He was probably beeking at people all night,picking fights and was already in at least 1. He would not accept help from a nurse who was there to help him and he finally lipped the wrong guy. That guy just happened to be an RCMP officer. Guys that go around picking fights and acting like "Richards" NEED to run into this sort of guy from time to time. Catching a beating like that will make sure it's a good long while before he acts like that again.

The RCMP member obviously went too far here and is going to lose his job over it. This one is suspended without pay and will never be a cop again.

sheephunter 01-21-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by New Hunter Okotoks (Post 808434)
Catching a beating like that will make sure it's a good long while before he acts like that again.

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I doubt it. I'm sure he'll get a handsome settlement and he obviously isn't big on authority and he cost a cop his job. I think what he learned is that this is a great way to get what he wants. Leaving him locked up and not acknowledging his temper tantrum would have taught him something.

Redfrog 01-21-2011 02:09 PM

He didn't cost the cop his job. The cop did that himself.

As far as the mouth finally getting his attitude adjustment, let's apply that logic to the thieves who hit Knight. Did they just finally come up against someone who could give them an attitude adjustment.

If simply disrespecting someone is justification for a beating, then why do we need cops?

I'd rather be armed and allowed to decide on my own who needed a tuneup.

It's one thing if the perp is resisting or is a threat, this is totally different.

sheephunter 01-21-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Redfrog (Post 808456)
He didn't cost the cop his job. The cop did that himself.

.

No question but I bet in his mind he figures he did it and looks upon it as a victory...something to try and do again.


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