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reddeerhunter 05-06-2020 12:02 PM

To shoot or not to shoot? Help plz.
 
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Deer Hunter 05-06-2020 12:04 PM

Shoot it. It's a beautiful bear.

Dean2 05-06-2020 12:24 PM

Very nice bear that is over average in size, but check for cubs. Appears to have a long pointed snout and rounded head with a triangular look to it in the one picture and the rear hips look quite wide, both of which are signs it is a Sow. Boars usually have wide front shoulders that are wider than their hips, square blocky faces and heavy front legs with large wrists. If there are no cubs I would take that bear.

reddeerhunter 05-06-2020 12:26 PM

Watching for 2 days. No cubs.


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Bigwoodsman 05-06-2020 12:26 PM

I'd agree shoot it. You have a tank there.

BW

reddeerhunter 05-06-2020 12:28 PM

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catnthehat 05-06-2020 12:36 PM

Never mind what anyone else says , if it is a legal bear and YOU want it, go ahead .
Cat

reddeerhunter 05-06-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by catnthehat (Post 4164788)
Never mind what anyone else says , if it is a legal bear and YOU want it, go ahead .
Cat


Just having trouble with this one. I do not want to take a female. Bears are brutal to judge sometimes. I have no trouble holding out. But know my window is small if this is a gooder.


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Dean2 05-06-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by reddeerhunter (Post 4164792)
Just having trouble with this one. I do not want to take a female. Bears are brutal to judge sometimes. I have no trouble holding out. But know my window is small if this is a gooder.


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That is a good size bear and should be capable of having young if it is a sow. If she has no young ones she may be past breeding age, barren etc. It hurts nothing to take dry sows out of the population, don't let the idea it is a female slow you down. As long as there aren't cubs and after 2 days of watching you would have seen them by now then I say you are good to go if you like the looks of this one. Best of luck.

catnthehat 05-06-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean2 (Post 4164795)
That is a good size bear and should be capable of having young if it is a sow. If she has no young ones she may be past breeding age, barren etc. It hurts nothing to take dry sows out of the population, don't let the idea it is a female slow you down. As long as there aren't cubs and after 2 days of watching you would have seen them by now then I say you are good to go if you like the looks of this one. Best of luck.

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The above post says it all:)
Cat

Smoky buck 05-06-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by catnthehat (Post 4164788)
Never mind what anyone else says , if it is a legal bear and YOU want it, go ahead .
Cat

This is the best answer.

The most important thing is if you will be happy with the bear after you pull the trigger. It’s no one else’s hunt but your own.

As for what I see in those pics is a respectable bear but no it’s not a giant. I do agree with Dean2 that it has characteristics that make me think it could be a sow. It lacks the muscle structure in the front end, boar often have a longer neck, and sows often have the round look

Your tag your choice

BigJon 05-06-2020 02:42 PM

Based on the photos, I think it is a sow.

Dean2 05-06-2020 02:50 PM

Will be interested to hear boar vs sow once he gets it on the ground. Also be good to see some quality pictures to tell if this bear is as nice as it looks. This early should be no chance of rubs.

LeroyvdH 05-06-2020 02:55 PM

It's a sow to me. Might make P&Y book. Good hide and lots of bear burger and a reason to go next year.

reddeerhunter 05-06-2020 04:28 PM

Thanks for the feedback y’all. I believe after further review it will be a pass for me as I have 2 first bear timers coming out. I am guessing boar, but very valid info and opinions. By wednesday I hope to have a pic of the bear and a celebration smile from newbie. Good luck everyone and please post lots of pics/cam pics.


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Fur 05-06-2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by reddeerhunter (Post 4164914)
Thanks for the feedback y’all. I believe after further review it will be a pass for me as I have 2 first bear timers coming out. I am guessing boar, but very valid info and opinions. By wednesday I hope to have a pic of the bear and a celebration smile from newbie. Good luck everyone and please post lots of pics/cam pics.


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That will be a great first bear!

Scruffee 05-06-2020 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by catnthehat (Post 4164788)
Never mind what anyone else says , if it is a legal bear and YOU want it, go ahead .
Cat

This!

I have a BEAUTIFUL cinnamon on camera with what looks like a very nice coat. It's not too big, but not small either. If I see it, it's getting an arrow launched at it. They've raised the quota to two tags this year in Sask so I'm not going to wait all season for a big one, I want the meat so I will shoot the first nice bear I see and hunt the rest of the season for a big boy. That being said, I have a very nice bear on cam right now, bigger than that cinnamon, if it came between the two, I'd still shoot the smaller cinnamon.

I've shot small bears in the past because I wanted the meat and didn't have much time to hunt, I've always been happy with my kills, regardless of size.

Grizzly Adams 05-06-2020 04:51 PM

You need advice from a committee on this? :lol:

Grizz

reddeerhunter 05-06-2020 04:51 PM

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Nathans bear on our first day out went 18-7/8” as per our taxidermist bleached ready for pickup.
He set the bar on a 10 min spot and stalk so now I have to topple that.


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reddeerhunter 05-06-2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams (Post 4164931)
You need advice from a committee on this? :lol:

Grizz


It def helps. Most opinions pointing to dry sow. Its all entertainment.


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Smoky buck 05-06-2020 05:01 PM

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It def helps. Most opinions pointing to dry sow. Its all entertainment.


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Even though I am learning sow I would say only 75% with the pics you provided.

There is a couple pics that make me think sow but the one pic makes my question if it might be a boar.

reddeerhunter 05-06-2020 05:19 PM

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Osky 05-06-2020 05:19 PM

That is a good boar, take it.

Osky

Osky 05-06-2020 05:21 PM

The bear in your last posted pic does not look like the first. 2 different bears.

Osky

I like to clear the debri away right around the bait itself and pour a good amount of used cooking oil on that exposed dirt. Keeps it soft and makes picking out tracks easy. If the ground is still to hard after oiling just rake it up some with the old short tins straight rake. Trails coming in this works well too.

Smoky buck 05-06-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by reddeerhunter (Post 4164951)

That is 100% sow

Osky 05-06-2020 05:39 PM

I would agree Smoky.

Osky

Coiloil37 05-06-2020 06:34 PM

The pictures leave a lot to be desired but from what I’ve seen I wouldn’t be shooting anything. That bears pretty average imo and it’s also early season.

That said, if you want to be like most guys and shoot little bears might as well whack it.

JohnB 05-06-2020 08:28 PM

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I would agree Smoky.

Osky

I agree.


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