Scope deals to good to be true?
I am looking at the Bass pro web site, and even if you add 20% for the currency conversion the Leupolds VX1's there are still 65% of the price of cabellas
They say they ship to Canada... Is there something going on? I am so close to buying, but am just wondering want the catch is 3x9 x 50mm cabellas $529cnd Bass pro $279 (US?) which is $340 cnd 4x12 40mm $279 - $340cnd cabellas $589 - WTF???? |
I believe they can't ship scopes across the border
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I tried buying one from optics planet and wouldn't ship optics here so I think he is correct
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Scopes are ITAR controlled items. Without filing the necessary paperwork for import and export, you never land one of them off a US site.
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Exporting requires legal rangling too. Get stopped in an exit check by US authorities and you risk loosing your scope(best case) or even an entry ban back into the US(possible case) or all 3 plus a visit to a US Prison.(worst case, highly unlikely unless.....) |
Curious if you could have an American friend bring it up on his gun. Remove scope, he returns with old gun that still has iron sights. Surely this has been done?
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When was in Montana last year at a smaller sporting goods store drewling over a Nightforce. The guy behind the counter was doing a great job selling me the scope. When I told him I was from Calgary he said" so what, I sell loads of
Scopes to Canadians." I don't think he was lieing. I was very tempted but all the party poopers comments from this forum started going through my head and I chickened out. To bad Trump can't help us poor Canadians out and ease off on some of those dumb rules. |
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Ha! Great thread! Really interesting. I had no idea since I had never looked into buying a scope across the border until 3 days ago. There is this great deal on a scope I was thinking to give a try and was planning to order one this weekend, actually. Thanks for info, guys! I am not even going to bother now.
Are there other countries who follow similar export rules in regards to Canada? P.S. A friend of a friend bought a scope in the US and shipped it to the friend in Canada. It wasn't done to avoid the legalities, but rather to save on shipping because the shipping charges were some crazy number over a hundred bucks and that was just 2-3 years ago when the loonie was at rock bottom. Neither the friend, nor his American friend knew what they are doing though in legal terms. P.P.S. It's just a ******* scope. WTF, really? I guess, I am getting little mad. |
Try IRUNGUNS. They bring scopes up from the US all the time and do it legally. I have bought a number through them. VX 1 3x9x40 $299 US.
http://www.irunguns.com/catalog.php?...gory=23&page=6 Your other choice is there is a used VX II 3x9x40 in the AO buy sell for $350 CDN, in new condition. Better scope, same price, no importing. Covered by Leupold Lifetime Warranty so no worries about buying used. (Full disclosure, it is my ad) |
4scopes.com
I've bought several scopes from these guys, 4scopes.com. No issues. They will tell you if the scope can be shipped north or not.
It's scopes with any type of mildot reticle they will not ship north. *I just checked. They may be out of business* |
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Remember one thing though. If you buy a scope from the States or have one imported, and need warranty. You will not be able to use Korth, for this service.
It will have to go back Stste side. |
Ya, this ITAR stuff is crap. Sure the Liberals avoided exemption with glee. Anything to screw over the firearms community.
Even with our dollar at a low, there where great deals to be had from the US. But you can also get screwed pretty bad with shipping and duty. I ordered replacement poles for a Ameristep ground blind. 17$ US. When all was said and done, it came to almost 80$ can! 35$ duty charge from UPS? Would have been nice to have a heads up from their customer service. I asked for a shipping quote, and the guy said, "Ah, not too much." I knew I'd be paying more than their worth, but I couldn't get any tent poles to work, just to stiff. A new blind of the same type would have cost me 20$ more..... |
Keep your eyes on European supply companies for their sales. I have purchased US made gear, including optics, for less than buying here in Canada or paying the import fees from the US. Shipping costs for most items are much lower between Europe and Canada than between the US and Canada. And no hidden taxes.
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First lesson, never use UPS or FedEx unless the seller guarantees there will be no additional customs, GST or other fees. If they won't insist they ship US Postal Service. UPS has been gouging Canadians with their bogus custom fees for YEARS.
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You can legally import scopes and rifles. I have a relative that has a broker that does all his transactions for him while he goes south every winter and buys several firearms. It costs more to get someone to fill out all the paperwork and get everything lined up, but it can be legally done. For most folks it is not worth the cost so thus they don't do it, especially for just one item. Trying to smuggle it out of the US or send it out of the US without the paperwork can get you in really big trouble. Deals in the US sometimes are really that much better than the odd chance you may cross one here in Canada.
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I ordered and had on shipped from Camo fire two years ago. No issues. Got lucky I guess.
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Bad news for me. I found a Leupold VX2 3-9x40 and Leupold QRW rings for about $370 shipped. I sent a couple of messages to the store in regards to who is their courier (i.e. USPS, UPS, etc) because I do not want to pay insane brokerage fees and never received a reply from them. Now I know why they haven't replied, which is still not cool: a couple of words explaining the situation or simply saying they do not ship to Canada would go a long way.
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This is why most US companies won't ship scopes to Canadians.
http://www.exportlawblog.com/archives/425 |
It's not just UPS that is hosing use now, it's Canada Post also. Couple weeks ago I had an impeller for a hot tub sent in from Florida for $31.00 ish and Canada Post " brokerage fees " were 13.00. They called it a ' handling ' fee. Lady at the post office said it started a month or more ago. Go figure
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^ Canada Post used to charge a fix fee of $5 years ago for their "brokerage" fee. I believe it changed to $10 a couple of years ago (maybe more?). However, they do charge this fixed fee regardless of the amount on the invoice. At least this is how it used to work. Sometimes, out of the blue, they would charge this fee and GST, but it does not happen often. I personally do not remember paying any fees or GST on anything I bought, I would say, under $200, probably more. As for the UPS, however, their brokerage fees increase as the amount on the invoice increases. Once, they wanted me to pay three hundred some dollars for brokerage fees and taxes on some used rims I bought on eBay to use with my winter tires. I think the rims were about $400-500. It was probably a decade ago. It took me over three months to work things out with them and I still ended up paying about $100; I can't recall the exact numbers. Since then, I try not to buy anything who ships via UPS only, foreign or domestic. I actually have no idea how it is even legal.
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