The 7mm Wby is a great gun. My wife loves hers and it does make a good starter gun for the reasons stated. It is very flat shooting if you need it to be and has an edge over the Rem. If you reload then the cost of ammo is not all that different. I think if you shoot quality factory ammo the cost is not all that different either. The Mark V guns I have all shoot 3/4" groups with TSX or TTSX bullets and near max loads and a few other I know shoot similar. I have no experience with the vangard.
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