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Old 01-11-2018, 08:06 PM
NUK SOO KOW NUK SOO KOW is offline
 
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Just read this entire thread. It’s really coming across as divided people. In which is what phillips/Y2Y Want. Divide and conquer. They will eliminate each user group one at a time. You watch. Ohv was the easiest most visible target. Then camping. Soon will be hunters and anglers.
If YOU haven’t done any thorough research on Y2Y and their agenda... you better educate yourself. Quickly. Then realize we have an eco-extremist environment minister that is heavily affiliated with them.
So much of this thread... again all about ohv. You gotta look at the big picture. Everyone and I mean everyone will lose in the end.
Think of the little things that go with this...
So you don’t ride an ohv. Ok. NO more pulling your trailer out for open camping. No more firewood harvest for wood to heat your home. Castle is 107000 hectares. Now your dog must be on a 4 foot leash every inch of it. How are you going to hunt grouse with your dog on a leash and safely discharge your firearm? Cougar hunters? Nope not unless you can run and keep up with the dogs. Wanna take your kids out An shoot B.B. guns or sling shots? Nope. Nothing that fires any projectile is allowed. Except during hunting season... with a permit. Back country camper? Sorry no fires allowed unless in a designated fire ring. So after you 10km trek to that lake... have fun sitting around in the dark freezing your but off eating your freezdried meals no fire to cook on. Pull over on the side of the road and park to walk down to your favourite section of river? Nope... sorry illegal now. Must park in a designated parking area. Just added 5km walk to get there. Elderly folks or folks with disabilities will now have a very difficult time to access certain areas.
Eg South castle road provided access to many km for hunting, fishing, several hikes and camping. It is now closed to on highway vehicles. It was a freaking road. So now UNLESS you own an atv or horses... or are ABLE to walk that distance... sorry not for you.
I would love to have a horse, but I live in town, can’t afford one nor have time for one. So yes I have a sxs. I bought it purely to get my aging father to areas we hunt and fish. He’s 70 now. Now way in hell could he walk to these places anymore. My boy is only 1. It will be years before he can hike these distances.
No more getting away from it all... stuck in a campground paying the govt more money, listening to the drunks next door and smelling other peoples cooking.

Every group has its bad users...
Some hunters poach... anglers poach or use bait when not allowed...hikers litter...some people cut live trees... some campers leave behind garbage...
And yes some ohv go off the trail. Doesn’t mean they should shut everyone out.
Parks are proven to run at a loss... that money could have gone to better management and enforcement.
Y2Y is a real threat to outdoorsmen. They want people OUT of the mountains. Period. Unless we can all see past our differences and stand together, no matter what our outdoor pursuits are, we will lose.
We CAN find a way for all to use the land respectfully, and together.
Look at the NDP performance... lies lies lies... so if you think Phillips is telling you the truth... think again.
There is photo proof of her with Harvey Locke of Y2Y.
The castle was just the start... a trial run.
So they ignored some emails and letters, and a few small protests. No big deal to them. They put on consultations so people “think” their opinion matters... when it does not.
Y2Y and Phillips have an agenda... they are succeeding... and unless everyone rises up and says enough is enough... we will ALL lose.
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