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Old 03-19-2018, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by whiskeywillow View Post
Bold portion; there is 90+ years worth of literature & accounts (since at least the 20's) proving that otherwise. And to address your previous comment that fordtruckin already replied to; there is as many years in the same literature and accounts showing 250grain Hardcast 44 bullets @ or around 1200 fps that proves an inarguable standard that the 44magnum is a good choice as sidearm chambering. In the 20's through til the 50's, outdoorsmen utilized 44specials loaded-up to the above mentioned power levels with great success... those loads lead the way to the inception of the magnum in the 50's and with the magnum it provided an additional 200-300fps gain on the same bullet that held the outdoorsmens standard in heavy 44specials so long, more recently the 300gr bullets have come into the picture and have-as-well added to that Standard & the 44mags widely accepted power level for field use..

We already know it's wise to have spray, we know the conditions and circumstances where it will and won't work. We also realize a 375H&H (or bazooka for that matter) would trump a sidearm where we have time to deploy such sizeable defense-arm, but physical capabilities and the logistical side to getting such things into play becomes obviously detrimental; so, there-enter your 44 or 475L (or what have you) and it allows us that last-resort piece that could save (& regularily does save) individuals from life-altering/& often fatal situaltions.

That's the part to drive home here. Where sprays and long-guns/slug guns, etc become moot points for use, the sidearm "comes into its own" so to speak. That's what they're for. And backcountry instances where their role is most logically called-on, we (Canadians) should have the ability to apply them so. It's the permitting system we have and "who" is applicable (here) as an applicant that needs to be changed... that permitting system and the way it's written is what's failing us outdoorsmen here in Canada. Not the fact that a sidearm can't save our life if it had to.
I see the point you're getting at. What I don't, and probably never will see, is the unfailing ability, by most, to effectively utilize a large frame , large caliber Magnum handgun under the above mentioned circumstances. To each their own, of course, but I still think most of us would be much better served with a spray deterrent or secondly, a larger caliber rifle or shotgun.
An improperly applied handgun, or any other firearm for that matter, could often cause much more grief than the situation warranted in the first place.
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