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Originally Posted by C2C3PO
I can't tell from your post whether you actually think that someone within law enforcement "leaking" information to a paper or journalist is considered normal or whether it is an unfortunate exception to the rule.
In either case you seem to be taking the position that because it hasn't happened yet that it is counter to justice being served. That it is somehow evidence of a potential cover-up?
I don't agree with that supposition at all.
I also don't agree with the premise that every single question that the public has in the forum of media needs to have a swift, immediate response.
Investigations are often complex and involve sources of information that cannot be divulged for fear of jeopardizing not only the source but of other potential targets yet to be identified and even further ongoing investigations. Sometimes these things are not linear.
If you honestly think that every shooting involving cops or every incident that involves their use of a firearm carries with it no accountability you are mistaken. In order for that to be true then you are basically saying both the officer discharging their weapon with the intent of using deadly force AND the unit/area charged with investigating the matter subsequently, completely lack honesty, integrity and accountability - in other words corrupt.
If you've truly never seen an instance of accountability then I will stop trying to convince you otherwise. I would, however, wager that what you really mean to say is that in some instances, that you have become aware of, it is your perception that accountability was lacking. In this case I could easily see your point since police rarely if ever get to trot out all the evidence after the fact to counter some of the pretty salacious soundbites you see from people being interviewed on TV, etc. And really what would be the point. It takes years sometimes for incidents like this to go to a fatality inquiry and even when exonerated by the findings of a judge after the report has been released do you really expect the police agency to get into a back-and-forth verbal exchange with grieving relatives, etc? It just doesn't happen.
This was a sad unfortunate incident for many parties. If mistakes were made it will come out. Despite all the bad press Toronto gets it isn't Tijuana. This would have all the makings of a Narcos episode if you expect anyone to believe that the entire team going in, the commanding officer and the initial investigators as well as the SIU team are all in on a cover up. Not within the realm of conceivable likelihood.
This is my honest opinion.
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C3p0, you are to be commended in your thorough answers, and in identifying yourself as LEO. Not all are so open, and just come across as bootlickers.
On the flip side, many of us, including the moderator you responded to, no longer believe much of anything that comes from police forces when it regards an officer(s) and potential wrongdoing. In recent times, it has become clear to many who were ardent cop supporters, that accountability and transparency are a thing oof the past. Many see the RCMP as an extension of the PMO’s office, as the head of the RCMP is a political appointment.
That is my honest opinion, and it seems it is shared by a fair number here.