did anyone actually read the second link? it says right there that xbow success is virtually identical to vertical bow success, so what the deal? sure does seem as though the hardcore archery guys are just plain selfish in protecting their game. i am a member of the ABA, but im not sure i agree with everything they are doing. for the muzzy season, i would rather see it after the general season. archery guys give up nothing and a new opportunity is born. my guess is harvest numbers would actually drop while hunter opportunity would rise. trophy guys holding out in particular could get in a little extra time, but with a one shot reduced range weapon.