I don't think we ever throw in the white towel, we have a proud history in this league, you know what's really sad that the so called sportscasters in this town ( Calgary ) spent more time relishing in the Smytty trade than worrying about their team solidifying their 8th place spot, remember paybacks a b&^%ch and in 2008 when the Flames can't afford to re-sign IGGY, KIPPER and PHANEUF.....well we'll hear the crying all over Alberta