I can't see either of you changing the others mind.
I guess what remains is an agreement to disagree.
A lot of excellent points have been raised by everyone in this thread.
I have been made aware of items in relation to this topic that I had not thought of, or considered before. In turn that will make me a better fisherman. That was my reason for joining and contributing to this forum.
I would suggest refreshments for everyone for raising excellent points and sharing their viewpoint.
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